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2loud
07-30-2009, 05:02 PM
Hi i found this in ebay and it says its the same ( but faster ) then a "real" TECH 2 ,, does anyone got any knowledge of this ? how is it to upgrade the software , is GM the only chanel (and buy an prescription ) or is there some "cracked" software avaible ?

can you get software for saab , isuzu , opel , suzuki as you can with the old TECH 2 ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-MDI-Multiple-Diagnostic-Interface-Tech-2-EL-47955_W0QQitemZ200366694684QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Automotive_Tools?hash=item2ea6c9211c&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
Jimmiee
07-30-2009, 08:58 PM
Hi i found this in ebay and it says its the same ( but faster ) then a "real" TECH 2 ,, does anyone got any knowledge of this ? how is it to upgrade the software , is GM the only chanel (and buy an prescription ) or is there some "cracked" software avaible ?

can you get software for saab , isuzu , opel , suzuki as you can with the old TECH 2 ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-MDI-Multiple-Diagnostic-Interface-Tech-2-EL-47955_W0QQitemZ200366694684QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Automotive_Tools?hash=item2ea6c9211c&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

I would look into buying software for the laptop. Without it this tool is useless.
masterfoxscout
07-31-2009, 03:20 AM
x2 10 char
2loud
07-31-2009, 04:16 AM
so where do il find it ??
Jimmiee
07-31-2009, 08:02 AM
so where do il find it ??


Ebay? How about the person selling the tool?
Jimmiee
07-31-2009, 08:30 AM
Here's a better deal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KENT-MOORE--GM-Multi-Diagnostic-INTERF--(MDI)-EL-47955_W0QQitemZ150359540519QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20 090717?IMSfp=TL0907171410001r9907
2loud
07-31-2009, 08:40 AM
Ebay? How about the person selling the tool? yepp he repyed that if il buy it for full price i will get the software also but he dident mention whitch software ... im also quite currius about other sellers i dont wanna be bond to yust one seller of this software and only have the option to accept hes prices or not have any software at al .. but has anyone any exerience of this instrument ?
cascott325
07-31-2009, 09:25 AM
you also better know how to use it. its one thing to have a pretty piece, but its junk if you know nothing about it
2loud
07-31-2009, 10:02 AM
you also better know how to use it. its one thing to have a pretty piece, but its junk if you know nothing about it

shoudent be any problem .. but its mutch easyer to learn when you got it ,,i i have an 03 escalade esv and part by part of it needs some T.L.C and i always seams to get stucked by not having any TECH 2 instrument , earlyer i was 100 % shore that i shoud buy an "real" tech 2 but it seams like they are shifting out it to this newer model and it seams to be mutch moore future safe to get stuff that are acuall today
shurshot
07-31-2009, 10:03 AM
Be cautious.... If it sounds too good to be true.........you know the rest......
2loud
07-31-2009, 10:06 AM
Be cautious.... If it sounds too good to be true.........you know the rest......

MMmmm i know thats why il ask you guys but at the same time this unit isent that expensive even from GM and this seller has a great reputasion ... the main part i wanna know if anyone has worked with it and that software question ..
bill190
07-31-2009, 01:33 PM
So far as I know, this is just a device to "translate" the "computer language" between the vehicle's computers and a desktop computer.

This does not contain any diagnostic software or software for any vehicles. It would come with software to setup the device and to connect it to your computer. This might be able to be used as a wireless device for example and you would need to set it up to be used on your wireless local area network.

The problem is with the TECH II. With that you download diagnostic software to the Tech II, then use that as a stand alone unit to troubleshoot any vehicle. But there is a limit to its memory.

Also as software bugs are found and updated, the diagnostic software in the TECH II needs to be updated. This takes time! Everyday!

With the new gizmo, all the diagnostic software is stored on the PC and then no memory problems with the interface device.

So instead of downloading software to the Tech II, just get a device which will pass the information along is the idea. Then the computers in the repair facility can have updates downloaded automatically every night. Saves time!

So this would be like your cable TV box which sits on top of your TV. It just passes the information along from the cable to your TV. BUT you must have a subscription and a connection to the cable TV service to get the TV programs!

Same with the new GM gizmo. GM controls the software. You get a subscription, then you can download FACTORY software to a vehicle computer module. So far as I understand it, you would need to provide the VIN number to GM, then they would send the software. Or something like that.

And you could only install software updates, but not reinstall the same version software to a module. And you could not install software to a vehicle computer module which was not a factory option.

Basically they as much as possible make this "fool proof" that you can't accidentally install the wrong software on a vehicle. And you will not be able to modify anything to other than factory specifications.

So if you are working on GM factory specification vehicles and repairing them to GM factory specifications, then this is the tool for the future. But you will still need the tech II for older vehicles.

Also this will be useless without the factory service manual information for troubleshooting. This is called SI or Service Information.

So you would need factory service manual information (SI)...
https://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome

Diagnostic software for your PC and this would be updated as bugs are found (Tis2Web - Tech 2 Diagnostics)...
https://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome

Service programming software (Tis2Web Service programming)...
https://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome

Or "Tis2Web - All Access" which would not include SI.
2loud
07-31-2009, 05:20 PM
Hmm this seller replys on my question on what cars/trucks i can work with like this : anything GM Suzuki, SAAB, Etc Etc anything that the TEch2 will do.
Thanks

is he a scam ?
bill190
07-31-2009, 05:49 PM
Oh, I'm sure that it true. I'm just aware of the GM end.

But many of these vehicle computer networks are industry standards, but I wouldn't imagine GMLAN is.

However things like "Class 2", etc. would be on other vehicles. Here is more on this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controller_Area_Network

And as for software for the PC for non-GM vehicles, I have no idea????

Here is the CAN 2.0 specification from Bosch...
http://www.semiconductors.bosch.de/pdf/can2spec.pdf
bill190
07-31-2009, 06:14 PM
Here is information about GMLAN, the TECH II, and the CANdi module...

http://fastfieros.com/tech/why_the_gmlan.htm