Silverado ZR2 Concept - SEMA 2009 unveil

[Steve]

Silverado ZR2 Concept
GM reveals new Silverado ZR2 concept truck at SERM 2009

It was just a year ago - SEMA 2008 to be exact - that Ford grabbed the headlines with their off-road warrior, the Raptor, and rightfully so to be honest. GM was in no position to compete with that vehicle at that time, but they did in fact respond in a year's time with a equally-impressive Silverado ZR2. What a difference a year makes.


http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1381&pictureid=8224
Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept - Shown at SEMA 2009

Powerplant? 550 HP LSA baby!
It would not have been enough to just tweak the existing Silverado to offer a capable response to the Raptor, some serious upgrades are in order, while still keeping the overall visible Silverado appearance. The powerplant is a 6.2L supercharged LSA v8 cranking out 550 HP. This is the same engine found in the Cadillac CTS-V and it's matched up with the six speed auto transmission. It is very impressive and out-performs the 410 HP cranked out by the Raptor, although raw-power isn't everything, it is a LOT.

Suspension & Appearance
The suspension and off-road ride was adressed with a 4-inch lift and 20-inch wheels / 35-inch Goodyear Wrangler tires. Carbon-fiber is all over the Silverado ZR2. The grille, fender flares, hood, tailgate, rocker panels and more are all carbon fiber. Overall, the design of the Silverado provides clues to the next generation re-design of the Silverado itself. This appears to be a boxier front-end with more elongated and bolder features. The carbon-fiber is not likely to see production simply for cost reasons, however anything is possible and technology makes production cheaper all the time.

Overall?
While the Silverado ZR2 may only be a concept vehicle, many of the components inside it are available today - the LSA engine for example. Having multiple outlets for this technology will help to make it cheaper overall. An indepth comparison shows that the Silverado ZR2 is not exactly the same type of vehicle as the Ford Raptor, and that's ok, two different vehicles trying to provide off-road enthusiasts with the desired effect. We sure hope to see this put into the real-world sometime soon though.

http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=554&pictureid=3034
Ford Raptor - Shown at Dallas Auto Show 2009

[ippielb]

Can't wait to see the truck when it's actually made.

[b_burdine]

Not too found of the color. But I do like the hood and the exhaust is pretty sick for sure.

[Megasaurus]

good styling, great engine and tranny, not too sure about how well it stacks-up for true offroad, but it's got a lot of power.

[disturbedvn]

If they build it I will BUY!!!:great:

[Tommygunz]

Its neat looking for sure.. but it is alot like the Raptor.. They could have tried to make it a little more unique looking in my opinion.

[BrokeEnthusiast]

Might have to trade my truck in on one of these bad boys. Any ideas on when they might be out?

I hope the brakes aren't too big so we can run smaller wheels than 20''. Id like to keep the wheels at 16'', fill that wheel gap with some fat mud tires.

I like it a lot more than the Raptor but want to see more pictures

[Tommygunz]

I actually find the 35" tire on a 20" rim almost balanced. Step it up one more inch or two on the tire and the balance would be perfect. Keep that wheel opening though. It would allow for a much bigger breaking surface to be employed.

[s5belford]

can't wait to check one out in real life!

[shurshot]

Its neat looking for sure.. but it is alot like the Raptor.. They could have tried to make it a little more unique looking in my opinion.

I agree that it looks too much like the Raptor! The design team could have done a lot better! I like everything else though, would love to see that engine in a true Lowered Ext cab SS!

[goleee33]

Hmm i think they need to do more upgrades to the suspension, other than just a standard lift kit. . . They need to increase suspension travel, put nice coil overs on it and make it able to perform off road like the raptor, I can throw a lift kit on any silverado, but if im going to pay the extra price for the ZR2 I want a well performing one. They should partner up with KING Shocks for this one IMO.

[Shorty 71]

I like it, can't wait to see it in person!

[ChevyLover]

Wow, I'll take one please. I think the front end is overdone with black carbon fiber, and the colors do not match well, but who cares when you've got all that power?

:great::great::great::great:

[Megasaurus]

I would love to see some performance tests on this thing. 0-60 on a dirt track, watch it do some serious trial damage out in the desert too.

[CarpenterGuy]

i would buy one in a heart beat. i would sell everything i had

[BLK-Z71]

I want one bad!!

[eallanboggs]

The GM LS series powerplant is so superior to anything Ford has to offer this conversation isn't worth having. Even with multi-overhead cams and 3 valves per cylinder Ford can't compete with the cam in block, pushrod, 2 valves per cylinder old school technology of the LS series. Ask yourself why this is true since it doesn't seem to make logical sense. It's in the flow numbers of the heads. Even with more cams and more valves the Ford heads can't flow like the LS heads. GM didn't have to step up to the 6.2 liter to beat the 410hp of the Ford. They could have easily beat that 410hp with a 6 liter with some CNCed heads and a bigger cam. I work on a lot of cars and trucks and a large percentage are Ford V8s. That's another thing Ford has going against it. The reliability of the Ford V8s isn't there when compared to the GM LS series V8s.

[bigburb]

I haven't been a fan of Chevy's body styles in the past few years, but I gotta give GM props on this one - that thing looks AWESOME!! What I would pay to just drive one of them for a day... If I had the money I would buy one in a heartbeat!

[Numbnutz]

I want one .... I wonder if I can talk the wife in to it

[mattpresley]

Its soooo Ugly!!! Let me get this straight. Being a chevy it will probably cost more than the raptor. its ugly and performs very similar. I'd take the raptor anyday hands down

[mattpresley]

the gm ls series powerplant is so superior to anything ford has to offer this conversation isn't worth having. Even with multi-overhead cams and 3 valves per cylinder ford can't compete with the cam in block, pushrod, 2 valves per cylinder old school technology of the ls series. Ask yourself why this is true since it doesn't seem to make logical sense. It's in the flow numbers of the heads. Even with more cams and more valves the ford heads can't flow like the ls heads. Gm didn't have to step up to the 6.2 liter to beat the 410hp of the ford. They could have easily beat that 410hp with a 6 liter with some cnced heads and a bigger cam. I work on a lot of cars and trucks and a large percentage are ford v8s. That's another thing ford has going against it. The reliability of the ford v8s isn't there when compared to the gm ls series v8s.
puh lease.............

[nomaddad]

I love my 2004 Silverado 2500 4x4 crew cab .This new concept needs some chrome in the grill.I like the additional horsepower .Silverado ZR2 Concept
GM reveals new Silverado ZR2 concept truck at SERM 2009

It was just a year ago - SEMA 2008 to be exact - that Ford grabbed the headlines with their off-road warrior, the Raptor, and rightfully so to be honest. GM was in no position to compete with that vehicle at that time, but they did in fact respond in a year's time with a equally-impressive Silverado ZR2. What a difference a year makes.


http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1381&pictureid=8224
Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept - Shown at SEMA 2009

Powerplant? 550 HP LSA baby!
It would not have been enough to just tweak the existing Silverado to offer a capable response to the Raptor, some serious upgrades are in order, while still keeping the overall visible Silverado appearance. The powerplant is a 6.2L supercharged LSA v8 cranking out 550 HP. This is the same engine found in the Cadillac CTS-V and it's matched up with the six speed auto transmission. It is very impressive and out-performs the 410 HP cranked out by the Raptor, although raw-power isn't everything, it is a LOT.

Suspension & Appearance
The suspension and off-road ride was adressed with a 4-inch lift and 20-inch wheels / 35-inch Goodyear Wrangler tires. Carbon-fiber is all over the Silverado ZR2. The grille, fender flares, hood, tailgate, rocker panels and more are all carbon fiber. Overall, the design of the Silverado provides clues to the next generation re-design of the Silverado itself. This appears to be a boxier front-end with more elongated and bolder features. The carbon-fiber is not likely to see production simply for cost reasons, however anything is possible and technology makes production cheaper all the time.

Overall?
While the Silverado ZR2 may only be a concept vehicle, many of the components inside it are available today - the LSA engine for example. Having multiple outlets for this technology will help to make it cheaper overall. An indepth comparison shows that the Silverado ZR2 is not exactly the same type of vehicle as the Ford Raptor, and that's ok, two different vehicles trying to provide off-road enthusiasts with the desired effect. We sure hope to see this put into the real-world sometime soon though.

http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=554&pictureid=3034
Ford Raptor - Shown at Dallas Auto Show 2009

[Eddie Z71]

That is one good looking truck!!!:great: Something about that BIG BOWTIE!!!

[mattpresley]

Guaranteed that thing doesnt have 12 inches of travel in the front or 14 in the rear like the raptor it probably rides like a brick box like all the chevy trucks do... it gets the 5.4 stock with 320 hp but everybody knows its nothin to make 500 plus hp out of them.. the 6.2 with 500 hp (estimated) hell slap a supercharger on any one of the ford motors and you got somethin chevy will never have... another fact supercharged cobra 550 to the wheels while the z06 505 to the crank musle mustang has tested chevy on all their so called hp ratings and none are to the wheels its all at the crank so the zr2 i give 2 thumbs down 4 times plus 2 cause it wont do anything but suck

[TRPLXL2]

Honestly I think it is a dud, I bet the price tag will be higher than a Denali truck. I would bet this truck will list starting at $60,000, and that's conservative on my part. It makes me laugh how many people on here want one, but every week some one wants to know how to get better MPG's out of a gas hog. Trucks are trucks dammit, if you want gas mileage buy a car. Sorry for the rant but it's true, you would be lucky if that truck gets 10mpg going down hill. :sign0023:

[ahm1127]

I like the look & color, HP numbers sound good but can the drive train handle it. Chevy has a very week independent suspension for there trucks I hope they did a better job on this truck with out adding to much weight. Get rid of the stupid carbon fiber, doesnt belong on truck. Get rid of the 20" wheels & put on 17" or 18". Keep it simple on the inside, its for offroad but offer aftermarket stuff through Chevy.
Chevy should make a 2 wheel version & 4x4 version.

[maximumrob]

Looks like a knee-jerk reaction to the Raptor. SVT actually put some time in to creating something unique chassis-wise, but GM looks like it went to Superlift and said, "I'll take a 4" lift and some blingy wheels."

There's nothing I see in the ZR2 that warrants a special price tag, especially since I see that same truck at least 20 times every day on the road in Dallas. Every dude in town with a few bucks to spare lifts his truck. What's special?

Horsepower alone will not make the ZR2 awesome when side by side with a Raptor.

[pmpddyd1]

Am I the only one who doesn't like that front end? The powertrain is cool and all, but it looks like dog meat if you ask me. I'll take the raptor please.

[bigburb]

Guaranteed that thing doesnt have 12 inches of travel in the front or 14 in the rear like the raptor it probably rides like a brick box like all the chevy trucks do... it gets the 5.4 stock with 320 hp but everybody knows its nothin to make 500 plus hp out of them.. the 6.2 with 500 hp (estimated) hell slap a supercharger on any one of the ford motors and you got somethin chevy will never have... another fact supercharged cobra 550 to the wheels while the z06 505 to the crank musle mustang has tested chevy on all their so called hp ratings and none are to the wheels its all at the crank so the zr2 i give 2 thumbs down 4 times plus 2 cause it wont do anything but suck



Well, if you're the big ford fan that you're coming off as, why are you on a GM site? All three or four posts I've seen from you are talking about how Ford's Raptor is superior to Chevy's ZR2. I see you have a 2500 HD from your signature, but that doesn't mean you can com here and rag on Chevy. Sorry if I'm coming off as a dick, it just bugs me when people do that.

And I have to agree with TRPLXL2 about the gas mileage, if you're buying a truck with a 550hp supercharged V8, you'd better not hope for good gas mileage! I would probably be gettin' about 5 or 6 cause I wouldn't be able to keep my foot outta the gas with all the power!

[2ToNe04]

that zr2 sucks

ford raptor will it eat it.

The ZR2 looks like they copied the dodge tailgate and copied the ford front end.

it still has the weak 10 bolt.

Tranny will probably **** itself.. if they put the same ol 4l60

dont get me wrong im a chevy guy, but gm has been using crappy trannies and rearends

[DarkCherry]

not as crappy of transmissions as ford uses, thats why I now own a chevy instead of ford. I have to say the 4 speed in my silverado is way better than any transmission I had in my last 3 fords. Ford sold me Two brand new vehicles in a row with transmission problems (six speed). One V8 explorer and one expedition, both of which had the 6 speed that could never figure out what gear it wanted. The expedition even stranded me while i was pulling a trailer. So dont tell me that ford has superior trannys, because they don't. The expediton uses the same transmission that is in the new ford f150. A few buddies bought one of the new ones (lariat edition) and have been complaining about the way it shifts, all I said was told you so.

that zr2 sucks

ford raptor will it eat it.

The ZR2 looks like they copied the dodge tailgate and copied the ford front end.

it still has the weak 10 bolt.

Tranny will probably **** itself.. if they put the same ol 4l60

dont get me wrong im a chevy guy, but gm has been using crappy trannies and rearends

[jow003]

Win/Loss
-Styling- ZR2 Wins
-Power- ZR2 Wins
-Looks- Draw, The raptor copied Chey's Wide grille however they did widen the entire truck which is something I wish Chevy would have done. Ford took chunks out of the wuarter panels around the head lights which(in my opinion) looks bad. Chevy put carbon fiber on their truck which is awesome, however a truck SHOULD be able to get knocked around and still keep kicking. The ZR2 has better looking exhaust(I imagine stock exhaust performance is about the same)
-Tires- ZR2 Wins
-Wheels- ZR2. Because neither have beadlocks or anything specifically "pro-offroad" ZR2 has better looking wheels
-Chasis- raptor. I dont know how much went into designing into the ZR2's, so this goes to the raptor.
-Suspension- raptor. Similar to chasis I dont know about the ZR2. However with all that, the front end on the raptor is saggy like a 2wd, you would have to spend additional money put a leveling kit on it

On a side note, What "built for offroad" truck comes with side steps? ford, grow a pair.

All in all they both are great trucks but if your gonna buy a truck to roll out of the show room to take it off raod, the ZR2 is where you have to put your money

[skivhere]

First of all, I want to state that I have never owned a Ford truck, but have had several GMs.

Now, I do like the way the new Fords and GMs look. And I do hate the grill on the Raptor and the ZR2.

Also, I believe the last good performance truck to come from the GM lot was the original 454SS. The last SS looked like a hasty reply to Ford's Lightning and the Dodge SRT10....it couldn't even come close to competing with either. To me it looks like GM did it again. Ford came out with a serious off-road performance truck (off road Lightning) and GM answered with another hasty reply. Yeah, the engine and trans sounds potent...but I see they took it right out of the Ford pages in the fact that you won't be able to change all the plugs; at least without pulling the engine or maybe 3 universal sockets.

I'm not real thrilled on how the ZR2 looks either. I do like the shape of the front end, but I don't like the grill...looks cartoonish....not that the Ford's is better. The rest of the bodywork looks like they slapped some stuff on to try to give it a bit of 'tude. Give the Raptor some tube bumpers and steps and it would look great!

And why are they using ZR2 for the name?? Wasn't that a lifted S-10 truck? That's what I thought they were bringing back when I saw the e-mail on it.

Don't get me wrong. If GM builds it, it will sell. And I don't think its a bad truck, if fact it looks like a good truck. I just don't think that it will be able to compete when the magazines put the two truck head to head!

[Widjayanto]

Futuristic model! Its grill strange enough, but fantastic. :great:

[plaquani]

i mean seriously their wasting their time with this and the builders didnt do much research on an off road truck i mean who wants carbon fiber on an off road truck.. just another way to rip some poor kid a new ******* when he hits a tree the first time he takes it through the woods..as the 1500s have a hard time gettin around in the woods down here... should of used glass.. as for the 6.2 supercharged motor with 550 yea right maybe to the crank but guaranteed its not to the wheels they cant build a corvette with that kind of hp... the raptor wins hands down theirs nothin like some suspension travel witch sorry chevy has never had...it gonna be the bigggest waste of time, energy, and our tax dollars they should stick to wat they know.. which to me doesnt look like much at all

[Easy Xjer]

Why are they making the front of all these trucks uglier and boxier every model? How about some low aero design for the front like the 98 models?

[mattpresley]

its not a matter of how much power you have but how much (power) will actually be transferred to the ground. and furthermore the raptor suspension design seems to have a better capability to keep the wheels planted on the ground ie better performance

[2ToNe04]

First of all, I want to state that I have never owned a Ford truck, but have had several GMs.

Now, I do like the way the new Fords and GMs look. And I do hate the grill on the Raptor and the ZR2.

Also, I believe the last good performance truck to come from the GM lot was the original 454SS. The last SS looked like a hasty reply to Ford's Lightning and the Dodge SRT10....it couldn't even come close to competing with either. To me it looks like GM did it again. Ford came out with a serious off-road performance truck (off road Lightning) and GM answered with another hasty reply. Yeah, the engine and trans sounds potent...but I see they took it right out of the Ford pages in the fact that you won't be able to change all the plugs; at least without pulling the engine or maybe 3 universal sockets.

I'm not real thrilled on how the ZR2 looks either. I do like the shape of the front end, but I don't like the grill...looks cartoonish....not that the Ford's is better. The rest of the bodywork looks like they slapped some stuff on to try to give it a bit of 'tude. Give the Raptor some tube bumpers and steps and it would look great!

And why are they using ZR2 for the name?? Wasn't that a lifted S-10 truck? That's what I thought they were bringing back when I saw the e-mail on it.

Don't get me wrong. If GM builds it, it will sell. And I don't think its a bad truck, if fact it looks like a good truck. I just don't think that it will be able to compete when the magazines put the two truck head to head!


350 made more HP than a 454 ss

[TRPLXL2]

I was driving in downtown Akron today, and low and behold I saw a brand new Raptor for sale in the Ford lot. It was that loud orange in the picture, and it had some wild tribal graphics on the side of it. I stopped and looked at it for a minute, and that suspension looks like it came out of 4 wheel magazine! Very impressed with it I must say, and I would honestly consider that if I wanted an off-road truck. The sticker on it was blank, so I have no idea what the price on it was but they were offering a $1,000 rebate on it. :happy:

[1ATony]

I like it.It looks pretty nice.

[CHEVYVANMAN]

i don't think it will compete as a raptor, period, what i see it as is a redneck with money, mud bog type truck, and seeing as all the rednecks go under from the economy first, whos gonna buy them

[skivhere]

350 made more HP than a 454 ss

Didn't say it didn't ...just said that was the last performance truck GM built. It <i><b>is</b></i> what started Ford into building performance truck! People forget that the 454SS came out before the original Lightning!

And yah...GM's ideas on pricing lately will probably kill it. Seriously...$35K for a 6cyl Camaro is way to much in my opinion. Nice cars, but you can buy the Mustang for less and it will still out perform it. (yeah, I know I probably opened up another can of worms....sorry!)

Somebody said it, and I agree...GM will probably start this as at $60K!

And for those who are bitchin' about the carbon fiber, remember, this is only a prototype, much of it will probably not make it to production. Like the CF and the grill....although, Ford kept their ugly grill.

[eallanboggs]

The Mustang and Camaro are an unfair comparison even though they do compete head to head in the market place. The Camaro rides on a rolling chassis while the Mustang is just a bunch of sheet metal spot welded together. If you try to make big horsepower with a Mustang it will shake itself to death unless you do some serious fabrication to hold it together. Just look at the start line and pits at your local dragstrip. Compare the number of Camaros you see to Mustangs. It's not even close and don't talk about Chevy versus Ford day at the dragstrip. It's avazing that Ford even shows up. As far as the horse power the trucks make, even with multiple valves and cams the Ford can't beat GM. GM has better flowing heads and also has the only 6 bolt main(only seen at race tracks). As far as aftermarket engine parts the GM LS series has this market cornered too. You can buy CNCed heads, big cams and headers for the LS series, but when I visit Ford truck websites I don't even read about people modifying their engines. The motor is too complex for the average do it yourselfer and the parts aren't available anyway.

[b_burdine]

As long as this bad boy beats the raptor in the Baja 1000, I'll be one happy camper.

[plaquani]

The Mustang and Camaro are an unfair comparison even though they do compete head to head in the market place. The Camaro rides on a rolling chassis while the Mustang is just a bunch of sheet metal spot welded together. If you try to make big horsepower with a Mustang it will shake itself to death unless you do some serious fabrication to hold it together. Just look at the start line and pits at your local dragstrip. Compare the number of Camaros you see to Mustangs. It's not even close and don't talk about Chevy versus Ford day at the dragstrip. It's avazing that Ford even shows up. As far as the horse power the trucks make, even with multiple valves and cams the Ford can't beat GM. GM has better flowing heads and also has the only 6 bolt main(only seen at race tracks). As far as aftermarket engine parts the GM LS series has this market cornered too. You can buy CNCed heads, big cams and headers for the LS series, but when I visit Ford truck websites I don't even read about people modifying their engines. The motor is too complex for the average do it yourselfer and the parts aren't available anyway.

and wat do you want to compare... mustang and vette... thats an unfair comparison... the gt to the z28... then the cobra or gt 500 to the vette thats fair cause their both the base line sport

i beg to differ... the 4.6 and the 5.4 are amazingly much more easier to make horse power out of the ls series motors just cant compete as of trucks, ive never heard of ford having problems with their engines... yet gm cant seem to build a vortec that can hold up, which by the way is the ****tiest motor gm ever produce, ... and i dont know where your from but where im from mustangs spank the **** out of camaros at the track and mustangs run small blocks while the gm guys run big blocks and nitrous... sorry to burst your bubble but you obviously havent done your research... and you cant go by just your local track and the local people everywhere is different... and if you are even a shade tree mechanic you can rebuild any motor...

and on another note the only probable reason your seeing more gm than ford is cause thats the poor mans car... bottom line gm is cheap to build hence more gms at the track for people who just like to race but dont have much money

[Truckenstein]

Sorry guys, I love my chevys but ford has us beat hands down. for these reasons:
1) Raptor is a fully re-engineered truck sr2 is sadly just a chopped up silverado with a lift kit
2) Raptor is purpose built to make 90+ mph runs over ungodly terrain Sr2 is purpose built so gm could say hey look at us we can do that too.
3) Raptor is a real PRODUCTION truck that is on the streets and trails NOW not some concept that will likely never be realized (GM high performance division took a huge hit in the bankruptcy and restructure)
4) Raptor is a tried and tested engineering beauty while no one even knows if the SR2 Runs(its a freakin concept) No real performance testing required.

This is just the short list, I didn't even mention the massive suspension travel or hill descent mode. Really guys I'm a chevy fan through and through i've had em all from a Z06 to a Z71 So Im not trying to bash GM in any way, but its obvious this shouldn't even be a comparison. And honestly if this truck had come out 8 months ago I would have a Ford in my driveway right now. And to be honest with you i think us chevy guys deserve more than just some cobbled together lifted concept truck. Don't be so brand loyal to a giant corporation that you get completely blinded guys. Oh well I'm ready guys Flame Suit, Engage.

[Truckenstein]

i don't think it will compete as a raptor, period, what i see it as is a redneck with money, mud bog type truck, and seeing as all the rednecks go under from the economy first, whos gonna buy them

:sign0081: Freakin awesome

[insanecee]

i like the concept... now we just have to wait on what it looks like

[JollyGreenGiant]

i like it, but i don't believe in buying something from the dealer already done up. I like to customize my own stuff!

[saejosh]

I am lovin it the raptor is cool but it is a ford so its not my thing at all

[Land Shark]

If they build it I will BUY!!!:great:



I agree....I need one....

[tooqik2see]

i'm sure i'm going to pi$$ somebody off with this but....the "NEW" Zr2 is nothing more than good looks and some bolt-ons. the Rapture has some serious hardware and it's hardware that serves a purpose....CRAZY FAST OFF-ROADING! i am a die hard chevy fan (except for the old 'stangs!) but chevy really dropped the ball on this one. here's an idea, how about building something that we want instead of building what you want us to buy? prime example, why no duramax in the suburbans or tahoes? i'm losing faith in "GOV'T MOTORS"...

[Coolrado]

i'm sure i'm going to pi$$ somebody off with this but....the "NEW" Zr2 is nothing more than good looks and some bolt-ons. the Rapture has some serious hardware and it's hardware that serves a purpose....CRAZY FAST OFF-ROADING! i am a die hard chevy fan (except for the old 'stangs!) but chevy really dropped the ball on this one. here's an idea, how about building something that we want instead of building what you want us to buy? prime example, why no duramax in the suburbans or tahoes? i'm losing faith in "GOV'T MOTORS"...
I'm a chevy guy all the way but this thing doesn't compare to the raptor. Number 1. ford actually built it.
number 2. they actually put their homework in on this truck's suspension. Its not just a lift kit, this truck will actually haul off road and on.

[383man]

i mean seriously their wasting their time with this and the builders didnt do much research on an off road truck i mean who wants carbon fiber on an off road truck.. just another way to rip some poor kid a new ******* when he hits a tree the first time he takes it through the woods..as the 1500s have a hard time gettin around in the woods down here... should of used glass.. as for the 6.2 supercharged motor with 550 yea right maybe to the crank but guaranteed its not to the wheels they cant build a corvette with that kind of hp... the raptor wins hands down theirs nothin like some suspension travel witch sorry chevy has never had...it gonna be the bigggest waste of time, energy, and our tax dollars they should stick to wat they know.. which to me doesnt look like much at all


the ZR1 corvette's have 650 hp bud, and of course thats not to the wheels, nobody advertise their horsepower to the wheels. lets be real.

[383man]

Guaranteed that thing doesnt have 12 inches of travel in the front or 14 in the rear like the raptor it probably rides like a brick box like all the chevy trucks do... it gets the 5.4 stock with 320 hp but everybody knows its nothin to make 500 plus hp out of them.. the 6.2 with 500 hp (estimated) hell slap a supercharger on any one of the ford motors and you got somethin chevy will never have... another fact supercharged cobra 550 to the wheels while the z06 505 to the crank musle mustang has tested chevy on all their so called hp ratings and none are to the wheels its all at the crank so the zr2 i give 2 thumbs down 4 times plus 2 cause it wont do anything but suck




hahahahahahahaha, being a chevy ride like a brick box? are you kidding? I've never riden in a ford that didn't feel like a stage coach. chevy's have always had a smoother ride than ford. thats a fact. I don't understand why ford boys are coming to a chevy forum, I see you own a chevy and a ford, there's probably a reason why your big boy truck is a chevy. I'm sorry for flipping out a little, but it gets my blood boiling when people A)don't have their information correct and B) can't stick to their respective forums...i.e. ford, dodge, gm, etc........ that is all:tussor:

[tooqik2see]

hahahahahahahaha, being a chevy ride like a brick box? are you kidding? I've never riden in a ford that didn't feel like a stage coach. chevy's have always had a smoother ride than ford. thats a fact. I don't understand why ford boys are coming to a chevy forum, I see you own a chevy and a ford, there's probably a reason why your big boy truck is a chevy. I'm sorry for flipping out a little, but it gets my blood boiling when people A)don't have their information correct and B) can't stick to their respective forums...i.e. ford, dodge, gm, etc........ that is all:tussor:

all i can say is WOW! i have had fords, dodges and a toyota or 2. i have to agree that NONE of them have rode as smooth as a chevy/gmc. hands down they are the best riding trucks made. that being said, i think that it's good that the other guys are checking in on our forums. tells me that they don't have anything good goin on in theirs! seriously tho, chevy really dropped the ball on this one. carbon fiber on an off-road truck? and the suspension is nothing more than a "look at me i'm so pretty" suspension...same as the carbon fiber. the raptor does have a killer suspension and REAL off-road capabilities. from what i've read, ford really did their homework on this and they built an awesome truck. chevy COULD make one better if they would listen to the people that actually USE their trucks instead of building a "sparkle & shine" ride. i am a die hard chevy guy and i wouldn't buy anything else, for what i use mine for. if i were going to buy an off-road truck tho, right now, i'd have to go with the raptor. just because that's all that's out there right now. the ZR2 is awful purty tho....:lol: