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Compact competitiveness

  1. Stealth
    Stealth
    I have my own opinions, but I'm curious as to what you guys think GM needs to do to make their compact trucks competitive. Engines? Interior? Options? The door is wide open here, so feel free to dream big!
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  2. TFisher
    TFisher
    In my opinion, it's all in a good 90-degree V6. Look at all the torque even Japanese companies are getting from good 90-degree V6's (check out the new XTerra), the technology to get a great power-to-weight ratio is here.

    In my opinion, it's all power and reliability. Also, a wide stance doesn't hurt. When I look at the new "Canyon" I immediately think "what's this the European model?" because it's so skinny and tall.
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  3. Stealth
    Stealth
    So you think a V8 is a bad idea in a compact? Or that a good V6 is what the S10 is missing.
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  4. murdog94
    murdog94
    I dont think that a V-8 is a needed option. I believe that is you need a V-8 go and buy a fullsize... I own a fullsize as well...
    I think that they really need to restyle the new colorado, and make the interior a heck of a lot less plastic and more soft touch. Ive driven a few and like the 98-02 S-10 a whole lot more....
    Also mabey something that is potent in the Off road world... Ie Zr2 on steroids.. Look at the FX4 level3 ranger.. (i know gasp a ford, but it is a tough little truck)
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  5. wilk
    wilk
    ya man im with you the canyon is small a little beefier wouldn't hurt an option vortec v8 wouldn't hurt but you gotta think in these economic times when people buy a small truck they want

    a.) GAS MILEAGE
    b.) Dependability
    c.) load capacity
    d.) style

    so in order for GM to stay in a competitive run with the blue dudes they need to make them tough not so much flash just a whole lot a** you know what im sayin?

    i love the looks i get when i ride threw town pullin a trailer loaded with a race car and equipment. they all say my truck can't take the pressuire but i look at them and say i got one of the good ones .
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  6. murdog94
    murdog94
    i agree.. btu people also want as much luxury as they can get for their dollar... I just loved the manual shift tranny and the manual shift transfer.. makes the truck a whole lot more solid when it comes to using it.
    Though the ranger is for sure dated. It still stuck with the mini Truck atributes..
    BUt im actually in the hunt for a 1998-2002 S-10 2wd auto, with a 4cyl.. for my wife. Then i just have 2 trucks.. Never have to worry about which to bring with me. HA
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  7. Stealth
    Stealth
    I have a 4 cylinder 2wd S10 I got for $3,300, if that helps in your search. I like what you guys are saying, GM's compacts followed the trend of poor quality that GM was on and it shows really bad. What I would like to see them do besides fix the quality is to have V6's, but then throw on a supercharged four or six that would be good for performance. others are doing it, why not GM? I personally would prefer even an Ecotec Colorado SS that handled well, had good power, and was a good performance deal.
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  8. murdog94
    murdog94
    Im actually looking at a 2000, 4cyl auto with the 3rd door, and loaded for about $2200 (trying to get it for $1900).. Has about 140K miles on it.. 2WD trucks arent very desierable up here in the Great white north, and mini 2wds are even less desireable...
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  9. Stealth
    Stealth
    That sounds like a good deal to me. Mine was just over 1K more and it had 89,000 miles when i got it.
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  10. wilk
    wilk
    i got my 93 sonoma ext cab sle for $1600 and it was power everything with a cassette player lol
    but down here in the deep south trucks are all over the place small tall wide and narrow
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