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    Default Push button 4wd vs Stick 4wd ~ Chevy Silverado

    What's your preference, the push button 4WD or the stick 4WD? I'm looking at a truck with the stick 4WD and at first I said no way, now I'm not so sure.

    Here's the 2007+ NBS 4WD rotational shifter/knob.
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    Here's a 2012 4WD manual floor-mounted shifter.
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    Looks like it's possible to purchase the button components for older Silverados. Maybe NBS as well?
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    Looks like you can also purchase the shifters as well. I wonder how hard of a conversion it is?
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    Manual transfer cases are the way to go. The electronics on the feminine 4x4 are common failure points. There is no more effort involved to use a manual case than there is to shift your automatic transmission from park to drive.

    Why have you been against it up to this point?
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    It's totally a matter of preference. Some people feel that you gain reliability out of the stick -- which is true in a sense because you're mechanically engaging the t-case instead of pushing a button and relying on wiring and a shift motor to do it. Thus, there's less to go wrong.

    Unfortunately that's seldom the failure point. More common is a failure to engage the front diff ... which is electronically actuated in both the stick and push-button systems. It could be a sensor failing to signal the actuator or the actuator, itself. You get the idea ... it's a common point of failure for both systems.

    So it boils down to whether you want a stick or push-button system. It may also boil down to resale implications, as the stick is usually found ont WT's and LS's whereas the push button is found on the higher trim levels that tend to hold higher values.

    I personally wouldn't let it be a deal breaker if I liked everything else about the truck, but that's me.

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    Main concern is the position next to my foot and the loss of leg room up there on the tranny hump. At first it felt like it was up against my leg, now I'm not so sure if i wasn't being to sensitive.

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    The main advantage of stick over pushbutton is the ability to swap it out with a pistol grip with the word HURST on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by barefoot greg View Post
    The main advantage of stick over pushbutton is the ability to swap it out with a pistol grip with the word HURST on it
    That's just wrong...

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    I would rather have a stick. When I need 4X I want to know it is in. And when you shift it in with a stick you can feel it engage and usually hear a clunk or some other noise letting you know it is in. My last company truck had a stick and in no way did I feel my leg hit the lever. I would tend to believe Steve you are somewhat sensitive to it. With that being said my truck is push button. I like SurrealOne would not let that be a deal breaker.





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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealOne View Post
    It's totally a matter of preference. Some people feel that you gain reliability out of the stick -- which is true in a sense because you're mechanically engaging the t-case instead of pushing a button and relying on wiring and a shift motor to do it. Thus, there's less to go wrong.

    Unfortunately that's seldom the failure point. More common is a failure to engage the front diff ... which is electronically actuated in both the stick and push-button systems. It could be a sensor failing to signal the actuator or the actuator, itself. You get the idea ... it's a common point of failure for both systems.

    So it boils down to whether you want a stick or push-button system. It may also boil down to resale implications, as the stick is usually found ont WT's and LS's whereas the push button is found on the higher trim levels that tend to hold higher values.

    I personally wouldn't let it be a deal breaker if I liked everything else about the truck, but that's me.
    I have replaced shift solenoids on 3 different trucks and a switch on another one this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moogvo View Post
    I have replaced shift solenoids on 3 different trucks and a switch on another one this year.
    You've seen more fail in one year than I've seen fail in a lifetime. Yikes!

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    I've had both electrically switched and lever actuated, cant say one has left me stranded more than the other. I do prefer a lever though, nothing says low four wheel drive better than shifting the lever and hearing the gears engage.
    Now if they'd just come back with locking hubs too.
    On newer trucks swapping from lever actuated to electrically switched isnt as easy as putting in the switch's, it's a transfer case swap along with having the computer programmed and a few additional servo's and wiring. About 2 days labor all together.
    The final drive gear ratio on the two cases is slightly different too, so you have to take that in account also.

    One other issue with the electrically actuated case is if you ever decided to build an extreme off-road truck you cant use any of the doubler or expander T-cases on the electrical switched case, theres compatibility issues and you need to swap to a lever actuated case to do that.

    Not that you'd ever think of selling your truck but one with an electrically switched case has a little better resale and is easier to get rid of, people have gotten lazy and dont like to reach down and shift anymore.

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