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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealOne View Post
    I'd rather we just sell CA and NY and go back to a flag with 48 stars...
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    hey, the nothern 2/3s of cali are ok, and most of NY state is fine. lets just sell those areas....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierraowner5.3 View Post
    hey, the nothern 2/3s of cali are ok, and most of NY state is fine. lets just sell those areas....

    Alex
    Nope, because ALL of CA and NY are running ugly deficits. If you ditch them then you ALSO ditch their entitlement programs, mentalities, AND their debt. Maybe Canada wants to expand and is in a buying mood? Both states are, after all, trending toward socialism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealOne View Post
    I'd rather we just sell CA and NY and go back to a flag with 48 stars...
    Gee thanks, just go sell me off. Ha, can ya really sell something that is in the negative. Kind of like selling a bad loan to a collector I guess.

    There are a couple of gun rallys going on this weekend in the state.
    There is a lawyer that is persuing a class action lawsuit stating the 2nd ammendment has been violated with the new law.
    Also the NYS police have issued a statement that all law officials are exempt from the ammunition restriction regardless of what the law says. As we/they all know they are above the law uniform or not.




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    fair enough.

    maybe we can sell Massachusetts while we are at it. that states getting almost as bad as NY and CA.

    ALex

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealOne View Post
    @Sierraowner5.3:
    Spot-on. Police and Military personnel should have no more entitlement to firearms and/or accessories than the average law-abiding citizen because when the uniform comes off after the shift is over ... that's all they are.

    @tbplus10:
    Consider that the militia of our founding fathers' day DID have the same small arms as their British masters' military ... and the 2nd Amendment was crafted in that context after the Brits passed laws denying the possession/ownership of firearms by colonists.

    Thus, I don't think it's EVER appropriate for the police/military forces of a government to have small arms that the populace cannot have. If the government ever turns on the populace the populace is at a disadvantage due to the disparity of force engendered by a government that's turned tyrannical ... and must now fight an asymmetric instead of symmetric battle.

    This means I've always been troubled that the legislation in 1934 makes it illegal for civilians to own/possess/craft fully automatic firearms since our military still fields them. Either it needs to give them up or the populace needs to be allowed to own them. I tend to lean toward the latter since the right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed" ... yet has been. (They could have avoided this by amending the Constitution, by the way.)

    Surreal

    P.S. Gun bans work about as well as Prohibition worked -- and we know how well THAT went. Look at Chicago which had a ban on handguns for years -- check out its violent crime statistics where handguns are involved, sometime, if you have any doubt that bans don't work.
    I agree 100%.
    Gun bans have had some positive results in places, England being one place where guns are not the predominant weapon used in crimes, but England has had a ban in place many years and their simply werent that many hand guns in the country when the ban was placed, so it was easier to disarm the populace. Other countries that have placed bans in recent years actually show increases in violence with guns.
    Military or Public govt. service should not be a reason to allow someone to posses a weapon, it's not how our Constitution was written.
    Legal voters need to be aware also that just because someone calls themselves a Republican doesnt mean their supporting your rights to the 2nd Amendment, just by abstaining from a vote they also give your rights away. The public needs to quit being narrow minded and only listening to what politicians are saying and start looking at what they've done and what their doing, every politician in office has been caught in a lie at one time or another and when it comes to protecting your rights their not to be trusted, they need someone watching them to ensure they act positively in our interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierraowner5.3 View Post
    hey, the nothern 2/3s of cali are ok, and most of NY state is fine. lets just sell those areas....

    Alex
    As an ex Northern Ca. resident I can tell you dump the whole state, it's a write off, up north they act like they dont want the govt. thats being dispensed in Sacramento but when the time came to vote for something better they made their choice to continue with the same garbage that put the state in the situation it's in.
    Years ago I thought you could cut Ca. in two making 2 separate states and Northern Ca. would be better off on their own but over the years I've come to realize the stupidity is spread evenly across the state.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...moves-on-guns/


    Let's see if my home state follows up on the promise

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinson33 View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...moves-on-guns/

    Let's see if my home state follows up on the promise
    I really, really miss being a citizen of Texas, sometimes.

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    Maryland is getting as bad as NY. I think I'm moving back to Wyoming. Wyoming is what America was, is their motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealOne View Post
    I really, really miss being a citizen of Texas, sometimes.
    Me too, might be the republic of Texas soon. Which I'd be fine with

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