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04-16-2013, 01:11 PM #1
Anyone tried this? (VB-2 door treatment by cascade audio)
Besides looking insanely amazing, apparently this has twice the damping ability of asphalt based sound deadeners, anyone ever heard of this, or tried it???
its looking like it averages about $65.00 for 14 square feet (about $4.64/sq. ft.)2000 Chevrolet Silverado
4.3L V6, 4L60E, 2WD, Single Cab
Poweraid TB Spacer
Flowmaster 10-series exhaust (dumped)
Edge CS insight monitor
LS-1 Dual Electric fans
Corvette tranny servo swap
Head Unit: Alpine
Speakers: 6.5" Boston Component set, 4X6 Infinity Kappas
Subs: 2-12" Kicker CVT's
Amps: Alpine-M1000 (subs), Alpine MRX-F65 (Speakers)
305/70R16 NITTO Terra Grapplers
16" PROCOMP 7089's
2" leveling kit
3" Fabtech Spindle Lift Kit
Front/Rear-Bilstein 5100 shocks
35W HID Low Beams
RECON LED smoked roof cab lights
HELLA LED taillights and 3rd brakelight
HELLA FF-75 Aux. Reverse Lamps
RIGID dually D2, flush mount, wide beam
Hawk HPS Brake pads
Russell braided steel brake lines
Powerstop-red powdercoated brake calipers
Powerslot Cryo brake rotors
EGR in-channel window visors
04-16-2013, 07:17 PM #2
- Join Date
- Apr 2010
- Piermont,NY, back in Northern NJ now, But may be in IL soon....
They do make a few things and everything I've used by Cascade has been very good..08 Z71 Avalanche Mods to date: K&N CAI,Hellwig Swaybars and End Links, Corsa Sport Exhaust, Superchips Programer,IPCW LOF & 3rd brake light and tails, AMI Gas door,Show Hooks and Door locks, Enkei Wheels, with Pirelli tires, StreetScene Bowties, Grant Steering wheel,Muth signal mirrors,SSBC Big Brake kit,Huskyliner Mug gards,Floor mats and Hood shield, McGard Lug nuts and locks, Bedrug, Cervini's Ram Air hood,35watt HID Fog lights, Sylvania bulbs all around ZXE's Highs and Lows, WhiteNight Back up lights,Sirius and HD Radio, SnugTop sitting on deck now Got a Softopper on now,Tempress Boat Hatches.... New Bilstein shocks are on... New Mods coming soon..... X
04-16-2013, 10:19 PM #3
Spendy, but if it's 2x the damping then it's worth the price. However, this little bit of fine print is super important:
"One of the last steps when properly treating the door is to apply small pieces of VB-5 gasketing foam to prevent squeaks, rattles and panel buzz."
Based on that it looks like the stuff becomes rigid/hard ... hence the rattles/buzzes. This means it's great for what you see in the photos, but you can't layer it between contact points (like where metal meets metal; or metal meets plastic; or plastic meets plastic) in your dash or center console, etc to mitigate squeaks, rattles, and buzzes like you can an asphalt material.
Another consideration is if you have to remove it, say, from the interior door panel so that you can replace, say, the power window motor ... it's probably a remove-it-all-and-replace-it-all type of scenario if you want to keep that look. That's another advantage for an asphalt-based product -- you can heat gun it, peel it back, do your work, and then put it back into position.
My read on it is there's limited application ... but it's probably fantastic for its application if all instructions are followed ... until you have to do work past where it's positioned. I'd have used it on one layer of my doors (inner skin, as shown in photos) if I'd known about it ... and kept some around in case I had to work on the doors, later.
04-19-2013, 11:15 PM #4
I will update with results...
06-05-2013, 07:51 AM #5
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- Jun 2013
Not so far.
06-05-2013, 11:18 AM #6
I bought/sold a 49 Packard last January that a previous owner had used this product on, I didnt have the car long enough to find many negative issues with the product. One thing I did note was that car sounded solid when closing the doors "thunk" and the interior was as quiet as a bank vault.
I left the stereo blasting Z Z Top and you could barely hear it on the outsid with the doors closed.
One negative issue I did find was if you didnt have some type of ventilation it got stuffy and warm inside quickly.
06-05-2013, 12:13 PM #7
99% UV reflective and 70% radiant heat reflective tint on all windows (including the windshield) really helps, though. It was much worse before I tinted...
06-05-2013, 11:53 PM #8
I normally dont tint windows on classic cars like the Packard, buyers like certain upgrades and will tolerate non period/factory upgrades but for some weird reason window tint on these classics really upsets them, and when Im trying to sell a $65,000 classic I dont want anything messing with my profit margin. Personally I'd love to tint the windows as dark as I can, it gives a good look to some of those old cars.
06-06-2013, 12:10 AM #9
06-06-2013, 12:23 AM #10
Their normally up for sale within minutes after I buy them.
My personal collection is holding steady at 12 classics and or hotrods for now since I dont have good storage for more than that. And Im to cheap to spend money on something I dont have to.