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    Default Getting a lot of Flat Tires ~ 2009 Suburban

    Does anyone else's suburban seem to get a lot of flat tires. My 2009 seems to be getting a lot of them. I have had three so far.
    Greg-Wisconsin
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    What brand tires do have on there right now?

    What are your driving conditions? Lots of gravel roads, lots of construction zones, etc?

    What kinds of flats are they? Small holes in the tread that are repairable or holes in the sidewalls?
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    I got a bunch all in series a couple of times. Seems when the tires are maybe like 50% tread life left ... and when there is a lot of road work and/or new building construction going on then I tended to get more flats.

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    Probably a lot of demolition construction where you drive-near dump maybe?? same route as route to construction debris dump?
    I have PLENTY of flats
    More-many more-in Prius-maybe 3-4 per year
    but also maybe 1 per year in Suburban.
    90% of the time I find either a SCREW or a roofing nail
    Oddly probably 4 screws to every nail??
    Oddest thing but screws are worse than nails??
    We-suburb of New orleans- have lots of construction-demolition
    and lots of sh$t for brains idiots hauling crap to dump in uncovered pickups-
    year boards junk-hanging over sides back-bouncing crap onto roads
    On the bright side-plugs seem to work fine.
    Now I know folks says "plugs are dangerous" and of course a PLUGGED tire-not as safe as an unplugged tire
    But a new tire-maybe $150 installed
    an inside patch plug is maybe $40+- and we can't afford that-so I plug them- keep my speed down
    trucks aren't really meant to drive fast-so no big deal.
    The Suburban will never see 80 mph-rarely sees 70 mph-
    Prius-sure as heckdoesn't need to do 80 mph either.
    If I had all the $$ in the world-I wouldn't plug or patch a flat-I would replace it
    charlie
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    1/2 ton

    199500 miles
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    I guess some people just have worse luck than others. I've had my truck for 12 years and am now on my 5th set of tires and I have only had 2 flats, total, across the life of the truck. My first came about year after I got the truck and it was in one of the OE Goodyear Wranglers. My last flat was about 3 years ago, right after I started working at Discount Tire. That flat was in a worn out Yokohama Geolandar.


    @phoebeisis Plugs (or that green fix-a-flat goo) do not work all that well. In my 2.5 years with Discount Tire, I have seen plenty. Plugs are nothing more than temporary fixes so you can get to a tire shop. If a tire is repairable, the hole will plugged and then patched over from the inside. Industry standards say you can fix a tire 3 or 4 times and it's still good. But as for the cheap plug kits you buy off the shelf, and especially the liquid crap, they are absolutely useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    90% of the time I find either a SCREW or a roofing nail
    Oddly probably 4 screws to every nail??
    Oddest thing but screws are worse than nails??
    charlie
    I think screws are worst than nails because of the way they are shaped. There is a spiral channel by which the air can escape vs. a nail where the side of the nail is mostly a cylinder shape so there is less room for the air to get out.

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    Steve
    Right-makes sense.
    Plus I suspect that you can throw a nail before it gets fully thru the tire
    screws-once they get it-a little they "hold on" because of the darn threads.
    Yeah-the screw leaks-do seem to leak faster-nails leaks are slower now that you mention it.
    MiClintoc
    I very rarely use the blow in liquid-I carry it in my truck-emergencies on road-but it degrades over time-and tire shop folks seem to hate it-and not sure how the pressure sensors on the Prius would "like it"

    Now plug plugs?? Have been used for 40 years?? Used to be you coated them with glue-airplane glue smelling glue-rammed them in -fibrous plugs bent double-maybe 3" long??-Now they are usually dry-and harder to jam in because of that.
    Pull out-cut off excess??
    Literally have been used for 40 years?? Of course they aren't as good as taking it off-patching backside-putting it back on-but you guys charge $30-to do that-costs me $1 to plug a tire with a plug.For the sort of low speed city driving I do-with several flats a year-and why spend $30 on a $30 tire that is 75% worn out anyway.
    $$$-

    You tire guys hate them-because of the DIY aspect-can't make any $$ on it. Sure your inside patch is better-but a NEW UNPUNCTURED TIRE is even better than your patch.
    Always safety vs $$ if you are broke-safety takes a backseat.

    Plugs-old fashioned plugs-work-and have worked for 40 years.
    If safety is primary concern-new tire is best.
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    Sorry I have abandoned this thread. I had Goodyear wrangler st. Replaced with wrangler at-s.
    Greg-Wisconsin
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    I worked in a garage for 6 years. We plugged and "plug patched" tires. It was a patch with a plug sticking out of it. I never saw a car come back because a plug was leaking! We did use a vulcanizing glue that was supposed to melt the plug to the tire. But, for years I used those crappy stranded plugs on my Dad's vehicles with no issues. I used to carry a plug kit in my truck in case of emergency. I had a large piece of glass cut deep into the shoulder of a 36" dick cepek tire. It was almost on the sidewall and between the treads. I was in a not so nice area of Detroit at the time and needed to get out because the sun had just gone down. I had to stick 5 plugs (with no glue) in the gash that was created by the glass. To my surprise it stopped leaking. I could not afford new tires at the time so the plugs stayed in. That tire was like that for 2 years, no leaks! Saying that plugs do not work is in my opinion incorrect. It is crazy to me the differing opinions between tire shops. I can go to discount and they tell me one thing. Then I go to a full service tire store (one with ASE certified techs that do alignments, brakes, and major auto repair also) and they tell me something different. I tend to trust the full service place more as the Discount tires near me are all high school kids working with one manager that is in his 20's. I am not saying that all discounts are like that, but the 4 or 5 in my area are. When working in the garage and taking classes offered by a few tire manufactures and tire repair companies, we were told that the biggest issue with a plug is running the rasp in. Not that it makes the hole too big, But that it can actually damage the belts inside the tire. But, saying that they do not work is just wrong. How have they been around for 40+ years if they do not work? Good marketing? I think not. Are they the best fix? No.

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    i have a plug in one of my tires right now, been there for 9 months easy, no leaking. I do keep an eye on it, and I have tires waiting to go on the truck the next oil change, but ive never had issues with plugs. done proper, they work fine.

    Alex


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