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    Question Edge Evolution help please

    Just purchased Edge Evolution performance chip for an 07 NBS Sierra 5.3L Z71...has anyone used this programmer b4? most importantly can a automotive retard program it by himself without professional help?

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    Since the Evolution isn't street legal in SoCal, I've no direct knowledge. However, after reading reviews and the instructions pdf, it seems pretty easy and straight forward. You ask
    ...most importantly can a automotive retard program it by himself without professional help?
    do you mean selecting between the Evolution's preset program options, or entering custom data? If you can get your posting to this forum, then you can operate the Evolution with no problem. As far as custom programming is concerned, is there something specific you want to do, or do you want to go "exploring"? Before you do anything, read the section on returning your custom program to stock. If it doesn't make total sense to you, don't change anything. When you do your tuner tricks, keep a written log of what changes you make. IMHO, run it for a while until you're thoroughly familiar with its operation before you start changing things. Like so much stuff we get these days, it takes a little time for the menu layout and options to become second nature.
    Are we having fun, yet?

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    why is edge illegal in cali, yall are strict as hell out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximous View Post
    why is edge illegal in cali, yall are strict as hell out there
    "Why" you ask... liberal, touchy-feely politicians who want to feel good, that's why.
    It's all in the name of clean air. Remember, when you see a "50-states legal" CARB approval number on something, CARB stands for California Environmental Protection Agency, Air Resources Board. They govern everything from back-yard BBQ air pollution to cow fart gas.
    With cars, they set the new car pollution control standards (adopted by other states), regulate fuel formulation, govern smog tests and monitor aftermarket parts. Out here, before you can renew your tags, you have to pass a visual inspection and a computer controlled operational diagnosis. Any aftermarket equipment that might change emissions must be approved by CARB. This approval is not a free service provided by the state, and the equipment manufacturer must submit test data confirming that the product meets the applicable requirements. This can involve considerable time and money.
    Programmers with robust capabilities will find CARB requirements too strict. I'm guessing the Edge folks didn't even consider CARB approval. Since California is such a large market, makers of other programmers find it cost effective to get CARB approval. These are gernerally limited to variables like changes in tire size and shift points. Because of CARB's very rigid rules concerning exhaust emissions, the Federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) accepts CARB approval as evidence that an aftermarket part is clean and suitable for use in all other states.
    Yes, it's all a big pain in the butt for California drivers; however, I must honestly admit, the air quality out here has vastly improved over the years while the number of vehicles has sky rocketed. Without CARB, the air in the Los Angeles basin would be much worse than Beijing's.
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    makes sense i guess, funny though, cuz in alabama its common to see 4x4s with straight pipes and our air is nice and pretty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximous View Post
    makes sense i guess, funny though, cuz in alabama its common to see 4x4s with straight pipes and our air is nice and pretty
    It's all a matter of density and geography: Alabama has a population of 4.6 million and Los Angeles County alone has 10 million. Add neighboring Kern (1), Orange (3), San Bernardino (2), and Ventura (1) counties and you get an area total of around 17 million (USCB 2006 est.).
    Los Angeles is in a natural basin that's subject to inversion layers -- before the Europeans arrived, natives called it the valley of smoke. Throw in all those people and heavy industries, and the air gets progressively nasty and nastier.
    I live a little south of L.A. in San Diego County. We have a population of 3 million and share L.A.'s air when the winds blow. It can be crystal clear down here, but if you look out to sea, gray clouds from L.A. can block your view of the islands and horizon.
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    i thought the edge chips were just a plug and play system with multiple settings, no?
    PETE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete95Sierra View Post
    i thought the edge chips were just a plug and play system with multiple settings, no?
    The Evolution in question, for a 2007 Z71 5.3, is limited to pre-set engine and transmission programs and a limited custom selection of:
    • Gear ratio
    • Tire size
    • Speed Limiter

    The Evolution for a 2003 F-Series Triton V8 is more flexible. In addition to gear ratio, tire size and speed limiter it allows adjustments for:
    • Wide Open Throttle Shifting
    • Shift Firmness
    • Rev. Limiter
    • Timing
    • WOT Fuel

    With this older Ford unit, the last three parameters give you a lot more control (and ways to get into trouble) than the newer GM unit. It should be noted that the Evolution's firm and software are up-datable via your PC. Needless to say, to a tuner/hacker this may open the unit to custom settings beyond you wildest imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    It's all a matter of density and geography: Alabama has a population of 4.6 million and Los Angeles County alone has 10 million. Add neighboring Kern (1), Orange (3), San Bernardino (2), and Ventura (1) counties and you get an area total of around 17 million (USCB 2006 est.).
    Los Angeles is in a natural basin that's subject to inversion layers -- before the Europeans arrived, natives called it the valley of smoke. Throw in all those people and heavy industries, and the air gets progressively nasty and nastier.
    I live a little south of L.A. in San Diego County. We have a population of 3 million and share L.A.'s air when the winds blow. It can be crystal clear down here, but if you look out to sea, gray clouds from L.A. can block your view of the islands and horizon.


    well that paints a pretty picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    The Evolution in question, for a 2007 Z71 5.3, is limited to pre-set engine and transmission programs and a limited custom selection of:
    • Gear ratio
    • Tire size
    • Speed Limiter

    The Evolution for a 2003 F-Series Triton V8 is more flexible. In addition to gear ratio, tire size and speed limiter it allows adjustments for:
    • Wide Open Throttle Shifting
    • Shift Firmness
    • Rev. Limiter
    • Timing
    • WOT Fuel

    With this older Ford unit, the last three parameters give you a lot more control (and ways to get into trouble) than the newer GM unit. It should be noted that the Evolution's firm and software are up-datable via your PC. Needless to say, to a tuner/hacker this may open the unit to custom settings beyond you wildest imagination.
    you should sell these things.... really
    PETE
    95 GMC Sierra 2500
    3" Body Lift, 33" Goodyear MTR's
    5.7L 350 TBI Edelbrock SDT Exhaust, Flowtech Headers, K&N Intake
    Sold :(
    1999 Jeep Cherokee, 3" Rustys lift, 33" BFG MT's, locked, armored: Rolled :(
    2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. K&N Intake, Custom Kolak Exhaust


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