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    Default Voltage Gauge fell over?

    I've got a question for you guys with the 2003 models , Hae any of you had a problem with the Voltage meter (on the instrument panel ) just breaking and falling over to the right and never moving again? What would you recommend in this situation? Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Z71 View Post
    I've got a question for you guys with the 2003 models , Hae any of you had a problem with the Voltage meter (on the instrument panel ) just breaking and falling over to the right and never moving again? What would you recommend in this situation? Thanks in advance
    The Problem is most likely with the Stepper Motor for the Volt Gauge is going Out/Bad......It is a common Problem on the 2003" to 2005" Trucks/SUV's.

    MIKE


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    Quote Originally Posted by 99'HEARTBEAT View Post
    The Problem is most likely with the Stepper Motor for the Volt Gauge is going Out/Bad......It is a common Problem on the 2003" to 2005" Trucks/SUV's.
    Thanks for the quick response , is this a common part that should be in stock at the parts store? Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Z71 View Post
    Thanks for the quick response , is this a common part that should be in stock at the parts store? Thanks again


    You can buy new stepper motor's.....on E-bay and most likely from your Local Dealership......as far as parts store having them in Stock.....That a good question??

    Below is a link that has Step by Step Instruction's with pictures on how to remove and Replace the Stepper Motor's,

    Link...on Replacing Stepper Motor's,
    Here is a Step by Step on removing and replacing the Stepper Motor's......
    How to Replace Gauge Cluster Stepper Motor
    If the needles in your gauge cluster flutter, stick, or stop working you may have a bad stepper motor.
    Dealerships want $400-$700 to replace the whole cluster, but you can replace just the motor for around $10.

    Time: 1-2 hours

    Cost: About $10 for 1 stepper motor (part: X-C5-168 or X-25-168)

    Tools:
    Stepper Motor/s
    Phillips Head Screwdriver
    9/32 Socket
    Soldering Iron
    Solder

    Step 1 (Remove dash faceplate)
    The dash bezel is has clips.....getting your finger's between the bezel and gently pull,once you have the first one off go all the way around......Also you will need to drop the Column shifter down to 3rd and drop the steering wheel all the down and then there are 4 screws holding the Dash in place....remove those screws and then unplug the wiring harnesses Take your time in doing this....once the dash cluster will now come out,

    Step 2 (Remove gauge cluster)
    You will now be able to access the gauge cluster. Remove the 4 screws holding the cluster in place and then unplug the wiring harness.



    Step 3 (Disassemble cluster)
    The cluster is constructed from 3 pieces which are held together with clips. Remove the front clear cover by unfastening the clips.



    You will now have access to the gauge needles.
    **IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW CALIBRATION STEPS PRECISELY***
    Place tape at the end of each needle.

    Turn each needle counter-clockwise until it stops as shown below and then mark off the location on the tape with a pen. If you do this, you should have no issues with calibration when you reassemble.



    Once you have your positions marked, turn each needle counter-clockwise until it breaks free from the shaft. Then use a fork to pry each needle off. It will take a little force, but just be slow.



    Unfasten the remaining clips that hold the back cluster cover in place and remove. You will then be able to pull the circuit board off.

    Notice the 6 stepper motors, each about the size of a quarter.



    Step 4 (Replace stepper motor)

    On the reverse side of the circuit board you will need to desolder the 4 points that are holding the motor on. These are easy to determine as they stick up a bit more.
    Heat the solder and use a solder-sucker to remove the solder. If you don't have a solder-sucker, you can have an extra hand pry at the motor from the other side as you heat.
    **Just be careful not to heat things up too much as this is a circuit board and you can harm other components if not careful.
    I was replacing my speedometer motor, so I desoldered the following points.



    Once the old motor is off, make sure the holes are clear of solder and put your new motor in.
    Resolder your 4 points and place the circuit board on the back cover. Fasten the overlay piece back on now.
    Now press each needle back on in the 12 o-clock position. Then turn each needle back to your mark on the tape. If you miss the mark just keep turning counter-clockwise until you come around again.



    To test things out, plug the wiring harness back to the cluster. You should immediately see the needles jump down and then up to the original 'zero' points.
    Make sure the needle for your new motor moved. You should really test this out first before reassembling everything to make sure your needles go back to their original points.
    Typically, the gas gauge needle is a tick or so below empty. My RPM gauge was also about 100 rpm under zero at the rest position, so I made sure they were exactly in the same spot after I plugged the cluster back in.
    Yours may differ slightly.
    Once you determine your needles are correct, just snap the clear plastic cover back on the gauge.

    Step 5 (Reassemble)

    Attach the cluster back to the dash and reassemble the dash in reverse order.

    You are done!

    Link to buy Stepper Motor's,
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-06...item5ade60b125

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99'HEARTBEAT View Post


    You can buy new stepper motor's.....on E-bay and most likely from your Local Dealership......as far as parts store having them in Stock.....That a good question??

    Below is a link that has Step by Step Instruction's with pictures on how to remove and Replace the Stepper Motor's,

    Link...on Replacing Stepper Motor's,
    Here is a Step by Step on removing and replacing the Stepper Motor's......
    How to Replace Gauge Cluster Stepper Motor
    If the needles in your gauge cluster flutter, stick, or stop working you may have a bad stepper motor.
    Dealerships want $400-$700 to replace the whole cluster, but you can replace just the motor for around $10.

    Time: 1-2 hours

    Cost: About $10 for 1 stepper motor (part: X-C5-168 or X-25-168)

    Tools:
    Stepper Motor/s
    Phillips Head Screwdriver
    9/32 Socket
    Soldering Iron
    Solder

    Step 1 (Remove dash faceplate)
    The dash bezel is has clips.....getting your finger's between the bezel and gently pull,once you have the first one off go all the way around......Also you will need to drop the Column shifter down to 3rd and drop the steering wheel all the down and then there are 4 screws holding the Dash in place....remove those screws and then unplug the wiring harnesses Take your time in doing this....once the dash cluster will now come out,

    Step 2 (Remove gauge cluster)
    You will now be able to access the gauge cluster. Remove the 4 screws holding the cluster in place and then unplug the wiring harness.



    Step 3 (Disassemble cluster)
    The cluster is constructed from 3 pieces which are held together with clips. Remove the front clear cover by unfastening the clips.



    You will now have access to the gauge needles.
    **IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW CALIBRATION STEPS PRECISELY***
    Place tape at the end of each needle.

    Turn each needle counter-clockwise until it stops as shown below and then mark off the location on the tape with a pen. If you do this, you should have no issues with calibration when you reassemble.



    Once you have your positions marked, turn each needle counter-clockwise until it breaks free from the shaft. Then use a fork to pry each needle off. It will take a little force, but just be slow.



    Unfasten the remaining clips that hold the back cluster cover in place and remove. You will then be able to pull the circuit board off.

    Notice the 6 stepper motors, each about the size of a quarter.



    Step 4 (Replace stepper motor)

    On the reverse side of the circuit board you will need to desolder the 4 points that are holding the motor on. These are easy to determine as they stick up a bit more.
    Heat the solder and use a solder-sucker to remove the solder. If you don't have a solder-sucker, you can have an extra hand pry at the motor from the other side as you heat.
    **Just be careful not to heat things up too much as this is a circuit board and you can harm other components if not careful.
    I was replacing my speedometer motor, so I desoldered the following points.



    Once the old motor is off, make sure the holes are clear of solder and put your new motor in.
    Resolder your 4 points and place the circuit board on the back cover. Fasten the overlay piece back on now.
    Now press each needle back on in the 12 o-clock position. Then turn each needle back to your mark on the tape. If you miss the mark just keep turning counter-clockwise until you come around again.



    To test things out, plug the wiring harness back to the cluster. You should immediately see the needles jump down and then up to the original 'zero' points.
    Make sure the needle for your new motor moved. You should really test this out first before reassembling everything to make sure your needles go back to their original points.
    Typically, the gas gauge needle is a tick or so below empty. My RPM gauge was also about 100 rpm under zero at the rest position, so I made sure they were exactly in the same spot after I plugged the cluster back in.
    Yours may differ slightly.
    Once you determine your needles are correct, just snap the clear plastic cover back on the gauge.

    Step 5 (Reassemble)

    Attach the cluster back to the dash and reassemble the dash in reverse order.

    You are done!

    Link to buy Stepper Motor's,
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-06...item5ade60b125
    WOW! Didn't expect someone to answer this quick and I even got instructions! Thanks alot man

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    Your Welcome.....I would also mention that.........you should replace All of the Stepper motor's.......Reason is Most likely overtime the other Stepper motor's will Most likely go out......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99'HEARTBEAT View Post
    Your Welcome.....I would also mention that.........you should replace All of the Stepper motor's.......Reason is Most likely overtime the other Stepper motor's will Most likely go out......
    Gotcha , Thanks alot

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    Had my choice of 2 different 2003's , I picked the one without the gauge problem , but if it's a common problem , At least I'll know what to do now ,Thanks alot 99'Heartbeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Z71 View Post
    Had my choice of 2 different 2003's , I picked the one without the gauge problem , but if it's a common problem , At least I'll know what to do now ,Thanks alot 99'Heartbeat
    Your Welcome....

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