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    Default New to site with two bi-fuel CNG GM vehicles

    Nice site.

    I have two Chevy vehicles that are bi-fuel. They run on compressed natural gas (CNG) and gasoline. Both are factory installed conversions - 2003 Chevy Cavalier and 2003 C2500HD Silverado. I will be searching around for some questions that I have. If I can't find the answers already posted, then I will definitely ask.

    Thanks for the site.

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    Welcome to the club.

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    Welcome from Myrtle Beach, SC

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    Welcome aboard. Let's see some pics.
    2009 GMC Sierra 5.3L running on E85
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    Welcome to the club! I don't know much about CNG engines but I have seen and done light work on some. Take some pics and check out some groups or start one while your there. You could make your own for CNG vehicles or join some groups. Hope you enjoy your time here!

    -Tom K.
    1995 C1500 4.3L 2WD. JET TBI Spacer, JET stage 1 chip, 10mm Taylor custom wires, Pulstar Iridium Pulse Plugs.
    260k miles and still going strong...

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    Welcome aboard!
    Mike

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    How is your mileage?!

    2006 Duramax LBZ
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    Lots of work left to do!

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    Welcome to the site from So California
    Dave V. -- Riverside, California
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    2008 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4.8Liter V8 engine 2WD w/Kenwood Double DIN CD/DVD Player
    1971 Chevrolet Chevelle 350ci V8 engine with 500+ horsepower (Still Under Construction)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntbush83 View Post
    How is your mileage?!
    There are two ways to answer that question:

    1. Miles per gallon - First of all, CNG is a gas not a liquid so the term gallon does not really have any meaning. The correct term is Gasoline Gallon Equivalent, or GGE, see link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GGE
    CNG's optimum compression ratio is about 15:1, much higher than gasoline. Since my vehicles are bi-fuel they are tuned to run on the compression ratio of gasoline (8:1 or 9:1). I therefore have a slight reduction in power and torque when on CNG. The mileage is about the same at highway speeds, but in stop and go traffic and city traffic my mileage is less. Here are my estimates on mileage:

    Cavalier - Gasoline: 80% highway and 20% city - 30 MPG
    CNG: 80% highway and 20% city - 28 - 29 MPGGE
    Silverado - Gasoline: 50% highway and 50% city - 14 MPG
    CNG: 50% highway and 50% city - 12 MPGGE

    2. Cost per mile - This is dependent on the price of gasoline versus the price of CNG. Gasoline prices changes almost everday and depending on how the CEO of OPEC feels it goes up or down. CNG is much different. It is an American fuel and, at least in Utah, takes an act of the Public Service Committee to change the price. Right now gasoline is at $3.67/gal and CNG at $1.27/gal. So, lets take my Cavalier at 30 MPG and 28.5 MPGGE for example. On gasoline it costs me $0.12 per mile. On CNG it costs me $0.04 per mile. That is a savings of $0.08 per mile. So while on CNG, my gasoline equivalent mileage is ~87 MPG.

    Jared:glasses:
    2003 Bi-Fuel 2500HD CNG/Gasoline (equivalent 40 MPG)
    2003 Bi-Fuel Cavalier CNG/Gasoline (equivalent 90 MPG)
    2011 Traverse

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