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    Default EFI Live is it better than the Black Bear Auto Cal Tunes?

    I have been interested in Black Bear custom and also EFI live you can order thru them also. They offer it for my 08 Silverado 5.3 V8 so i looked into it. The EFILive V1 Commercial w/email tune - $579 which is 2nd highest to the EFILive V2 Scan and Tune - $899 (Free email tune included). What is the difference in the 2 and how much better is 1 to the other? Can anyone give me any advice of this tune?????? Thanks, Jake
    Last edited by Rockstarrchevy81; 02-03-2012 at 10:48 PM.

    2008 Chevy Silverado Ext. Cab Lt Z71 5.3 V8
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    V2 has more vehicle options also look at the link
    http://www.efilive.com/index.php?Ite...t&view=article
    2003 Chevy Silverado Z71 V8 5.3L
    S&B Cold Air Intake
    Weld Typhoon's
    Leveled with Edelbrock Shocks
    Flowmaster 10 Series
    Tuned with Diablo Predator

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    don't you have to know what changes to make to make the EFILive to be useful?

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    yeah, efi live is a full tuning software suite, it is not a programmer you just plug in, heh... you have to know what you are doing in order to use that software...

    blackbear uses the efi live software to create the custom tune and then you'd load it on the autocal device - which plugs into your obd port and you install the tune from that...

    but if you get just the efi live software, then you need to figure out how to tune, and you would tune your vehicle yourself...
    Last edited by 06MonteSS; 02-09-2012 at 11:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06MonteSS
    yeah, efi live is a full tuning software suite, it is not a programmer you just plug in, heh... you have to know what you are doing in order to use that software...

    blackbear uses the efi live software to create the custom tune and then you'd load it on the autocal device - which plugs into your obd port and you install the tune from that...

    but if you get just the efi live software, then you need to figure out how to tune, and you would tune your vehicle yourself...
    Can't a predator be used the same way though with the software Diablo offers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverZ71 View Post
    Can't a predator be used the same way though with the software Diablo offers?
    yes, if you have or get a diablo Predator or Trinity, you can get custom tuning done for them/your vehicle by a diablosport custom tuner (like myself)...

    also, the diablo products come with some pre-made tunes on them already for the vehicle that you can load and use, make adjustments, etc... whereas the autocal does not - it is strictly for custom tuning...

    there's a lot more functionality/flexibility with a Predator/Trinity... for 2007+ trucks, I would get the Trinity, since it has tcm/tranny support now... the predators do not and will not....

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    Military discounts?

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    unfortunately no... there are minimum pricing policies/rules that dictate the lowest price the items are allowed to be sold for by authorized dealers/resellers...

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    Yeah i think that sucks that they do that though.. in my opinion they would make even more money just my 2 cents.

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    I offer special deals on them when buying the package deal that includes the tune... I discount the tune cost so you save $$... http://www.diablewtune.com/package_deal.html

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