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    Wondering what others use to defend their home. Unfortunately, the wife is really fighting me on getting a shotgun for the home. She did say that she'd be more comfortable with a handgun, which takes 6 months for a permit, but I also feel that a shotgun would be fun at the range, and provide more oomph protection. Let me know if you have any suggestions for convincing the wife too.
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    I have 2 dogs for early warning and a sig 9mm. My wife hates guns and doesn't like the idea of having them in the house. So the 9mm is easy to keep out of view of her but packs enough of a punch to get the job done.

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    Ithaca model 66 single shot (won't screw up while half-asleep) 12 gauge with 3" magnums of 00 buck, backed up by S&W 686 4" 357 magnum.
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    I've use to keep various shotguns, rifles, and handguns easily accessable for home defence, but since we have a curious grandaughter running around the house the last few years those have all been locked away in a gun safe where they wont do us any good in an emergency.
    So I rely on a PR-24 Monanondock nightstick that I keeped tucked away next to my headboard to assist me, lethal but only leaves the grandaughter with bumps and bruises if she finds it and messes with it.
    A shotgun loaded with buckshot is normally considered the best option, depending on the load it wont blow through a wall and hurt someone your trying to protect on the otherside, in the middle of the night when your half asleep and the sxxt storm is happening you wont have a clear picture of where everyone is.
    Bullets have a bad habit of missing soft targets they were meant for then flying through walls and finding soft targets they werent meant for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbplus10 View Post
    I've use to keep various shotguns, rifles, and handguns easily accessable for home defence, but since we have a curious grandaughter running around the house the last few years those have all been locked away in a gun safe where they wont do us any good in an emergency.
    So I rely on a PR-24 Monanondock nightstick that I keeped tucked away next to my headboard to assist me, lethal but only leaves the grandaughter with bumps and bruises if she finds it and messes with it.
    A shotgun loaded with buckshot is normally considered the best option, depending on the load it wont blow through a wall and hurt someone your trying to protect on the otherside, in the middle of the night when your half asleep and the sxxt storm is happening you wont have a clear picture of where everyone is.
    Bullets have a bad habit of missing soft targets they were meant for then flying through walls and finding soft targets they werent meant for.
    Years ago when I used to pick up double 18 wheeler trailers at the rail-yard, the Rail Police Lt demonstrated the correct way to use a nightstick, or similar.
    Don't hit or swing the stick, instead, poke the attacker in the center of the breast-bone, just as hard & fast as You can.
    That generally brings them to their knees, and most of all, it helps to maintain distance between You and the attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyc0 View Post
    Years ago when I used to pick up double 18 wheeler trailers at the rail-yard, the Rail Police Lt demonstrated the correct way to use a nightstick, or similar.
    Don't hit or swing the stick, instead, poke the attacker in the center of the breast-bone, just as hard & fast as You can.
    That generally brings them to their knees, and most of all, it helps to maintain distance between You and the attacker.
    Yes sir and thats just one of the reasons a Monanondock is so lethal, with the side handle you have great control and a lot of force in that small tip. Also poking someone it's almost impossible for them to stop you and hard to grab and yank the stick away from the user.
    It always amazed me that someone could have a three day school on how to use a simple nightstick and make all three days full of good information and tecniques. The U.S. Navy sent me to the factory in the mid 90's to be a Monanondock instructor for Navy security forces staioned in the middle east back in the mid 90's. Actually a fun job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbplus10 View Post
    I've use to keep various shotguns, rifles, and handguns easily accessable for home defence, but since we have a curious grandaughter running around the house the last few years those have all been locked away in a gun safe where they wont do us any good in an emergency.
    So I rely on a PR-24 Monanondock nightstick that I keeped tucked away next to my headboard to assist me, lethal but only leaves the grandaughter with bumps and bruises if she finds it and messes with it.
    A shotgun loaded with buckshot is normally considered the best option, depending on the load it wont blow through a wall and hurt someone your trying to protect on the otherside, in the middle of the night when your half asleep and the sxxt storm is happening you wont have a clear picture of where everyone is.
    Bullets have a bad habit of missing soft targets they were meant for then flying through walls and finding soft targets they werent meant for.
    Hello, sir:

    I have to wholeheartedly agree with the gentleman above and his opinion on this topic. Very sensible.

    Here is my take. Look, your firearms don't really do any good during the day. Most likely you see them before they enter and you call 911. Maybe you have to brandish a weapon, but unless you made someone mad or you have something they know is in there they really want to steal bad enough to get shot doing it, they stay outside if they even know someone is home and awake. Now, maybe you live somewhere that there are a lot of tweakers around and maybe then you think differently. But for most of us, I think my view is reasonable.

    You have a spouse. So do I. Mine hates firearms of any sort. She is no firearms expert. I want her to have something she can pick up, pull the trigger and not have to point too much, and like the person above points out, I don't want the rounds going through a wall hitting an innocent person in the process. A 20 gauge shotgun is the ticket in my opinion. You get awakened, you are still waking up and how the heck can you expect to pull off a round or more and hit much with a pistol? Unless you are shooting one of those revolvers that shoots shotgun slugs, this is not a good way to defend your home in the middle of the night in the dark in closed quarters. The shotgun sprays out a big enough area, you're gonna hit something on that burglar. Will they stick around? Well, they now have a limp or maybe worse, and they sure don't want to get caught by law enforcement. Time to leave.

    One or more medium to large territorial dogs in your home (not outside) is your best home defense. I have had two Dalmatians, female (female dogs are generally more territorial) over the past 18 years, and we don't even get solictors any more. The last one I saw when I opened the door slowly backed away with both hands up when my dogs started barking, growling and tearing at the screen door. Of course, Dalmatians are particularly protective of their owner's home, and very protective of children in the home. If we are gone, the dogs are in the house free, not in a kennel. A dog outside can be easily disposed of silently with poison meat.

    There are lots of other dogs to choose besides Dalmatians, I am just biased. Make sure your homeowner insurer does not have exclusions for the dog you are thinking of getting. You may be denied coverage if you have a Pit Bull or some other breeds the insurance companies consider "dangerous".
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    Quote Originally Posted by aloxdaddy99 View Post
    I have 2 dogs for early warning and a sig 9mm. My wife hates guns and doesn't like the idea of having them in the house. So the 9mm is easy to keep out of view of her but packs enough of a punch to get the job done.
    I have a choc lab for early detection, and may go the handgun route since the wife feels the same way. I prefer to also have a 12ga too to buy more time and prevent going through walls, but I'm not getting anywhere with her on that point. How did you get your wife comfortable with the 9mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyc0 View Post
    Ithaca model 66 single shot (won't screw up while half-asleep) 12 gauge with 3" magnums of 00 buck, backed up by S&W 686 4" 357 magnum.
    Sounds good. My. Only concern with a 357 is the penetration factor and that my daughterr's room is across the hallway from my side of the bed. Not a good backdrop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbplus10 View Post
    I've use to keep various shotguns, rifles, and handguns easily accessable for home defence, but since we have a curious grandaughter running around the house the last few years those have all been locked away in a gun safe where they wont do us any good in an emergency.
    So I rely on a PR-24 Monanondock nightstick that I keeped tucked away next to my headboard to assist me, lethal but only leaves the grandaughter with bumps and bruises if she finds it and messes with it.
    A shotgun loaded with buckshot is normally considered the best option, depending on the load it wont blow through a wall and hurt someone your trying to protect on the otherside, in the middle of the night when your half asleep and the sxxt storm is happening you wont have a clear picture of where everyone is.
    Bullets have a bad habit of missing soft targets they were meant for then flying through walls and finding soft targets they werent meant for.
    Some of the better safes allow for quick retrieval of a weapon, and I considered setting all but the last digit of the combo so I could quickly get to a long gun. I may also go the revolver route. Easy to store, and no fumbling with magazines in the middle of the night. I like the handgun safes that fit in the nightstand, but that I could put in the long gun safe during the day. I also have my 34 ounce aluminum bat, which will be very little use against a gun, but is better than a pillow.
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    You may want to look into the Glaser safety slug, its frangible ammo. they are suppose to break up on anything denser then the jacket. just do shoot then in the skull or you may have to fire a few more time.. and have a little mess to clean up after wards.

    I personally will only use 180grain hollow points made by federal for home defence
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    I have a German Shepherd inside for early detection, and have a 9mm and a 12 gauge in reach of my bed.

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