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2001 Tahoe - No crank - No start - No nothing!!!

Discussion in 'GM Powertrain' started by Unbelievable2, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. Unbelievable2

    Unbelievable2 Rockstar

    So my sister purchased this Tahoe back in 2001 brand new... Got 13 faithful years out of it, when last week something finally failed... Her son was driving it and in his own words, this is what happened... I know it's pretty vague, but I figured I would add it to the thread seeing it's the only small amount of info I know. Sorry in advance, the description lacks any detail (he's only 17).

    "So the engine was just making this crazy loud noise whenever I put my foot down on the pedal. So i pulled over and let it sit for a couple mins. Then I started it and put it into drive and when I put my foot on the pedal the speedometer shot up all the way and the engine made a wicked loud noise and then I just didn't bother starting it again."

    Otherwise, I am basically looking to see what simple tests I can do, to see what is salvageable. All though I know it's possible, the chances of the motor and trans/drive train components failing both at once are pretty slim.

    The truck was towed to my house, I attempted to start it and got nothing. All the dash lights came on, battery reads close to 13V. I turn the key and I get nothing at all.

    Anyone have a suggestion on where to begin? Don't know if this is coincidence that the truck won't start anymore or if something major failed/motor seized. I plan to at least start with checking fuses and relays.

    Does anyone know the location/number for any starter related fuses or relays?

    Thanks in advance.

    My sister was going to just let the tow company keep the truck, as they were basically just waiting for it to die to buy a new vehicle. When I heard this I said I would take it, so it cost me $100 to pay for the tow.
     
  2. Dana W

    Dana W Member 2 Years 100 Posts

    The sequence of "Loud noises" the young man reports leads me to believe there has been a major mechanical failure in the engine. The starter probably blew its fuse trying to turn a broken motor over during the restart attempt.

    I think there is a connecting rod broken, bent, and jambing the engine into an immovable chunk of steel. You nay have a $100.00 paperweight.

    Set the E brake. Put the transmission in neutral. Disconnect the battery. Remove the spark plugs. Remove the accessory belts.

    Put a long handled wrench (breaker bar) on the crank pulley retainer nut and try to rotate the engine. It probably will not move very much.

    If it does move easily, then it is the transmission that has gone to the happy hunting grounds. This may explain the speedo maxing out while standing still.
     
  3. Unbelievable2

    Unbelievable2 Rockstar

    I was leaning towards something transmission related when I heard the speedo going up/vehicle not moving... Either way, I don't really care the case, just looking to get it sorted and figure out what is salvageable. No such thing as a $100 paper weight when it comes to a complete later model vehicle, this is worth 20 times what I paid in parts. I can triple my money by selling the wheels/all season goodyear tires that were put on the truck 20k ago, then scrap it for $175/ton if I wanted to move it quickly.

    Thanks for the reply, Im going to check some fuses and power at the starter before I pull the plugs and belts... I'm in NH and it's currently snowing right now/ 12 degrees out. :sign0196::sign0196::sign0196::sign0196:
     
  4. j cat

    j cat Rockstar 4 Years 1000 Posts

    if this driver is less than 20 years old my guess is he put the GAS pedal down , and the tach went all the way up. the engine is now seized.

    this happens when there at this age ... also when they are pissed they have to drive such an old vehicle...
     
  5. RayVoy

    RayVoy Well-Known Member 2 Years 1000 Posts

    What the hell kind of an answer is that :grrrrrr:, a lot of people drive older vehicles and their (btw, the proper spelling for the word you used is they're) kids are damn happy to be able to drive the vehicle.
     
  6. j cat

    j cat Rockstar 4 Years 1000 Posts

    I have children ,my friends have children of the teen years. in this area they do things that we can not believe to a vehicle because it is so #####.

    I have stories that no adult would ever believe their child would do , such a stupid act that would destroy their parents vehicle.

    how about my friends kid the cops bagged for trying to get the car up on two wheels at the local shopping center !

    putting crap in the gas tank so they would have to buy a newer vehicle. and much worse.

    THEN YOU GET MY CHILD WOULD NEVER DO THAT ! then reality sets in ..

    the poster said it when he stated the story is not very clear on what happened ...also they were going to get a new ride any way .

    I just said it was a guess what really happened ,,, gas pedal to floor then boom all blown up.
     
  7. RayVoy

    RayVoy Well-Known Member 2 Years 1000 Posts

    Now that is a much better answer. Explanations always work better than bashing assumptions.

    I wasn't offended by the guess, we all do that and, like you, state that it is a guess. I didn't like the comment about having "to drive such an old vehicle"
     
  8. the phantom

    the phantom Active Member 2 Years ROTM Winner Gold Member 1000 Posts

    Hes just saying some kids are so unappreciative of even being able to drive a vehicle let alone an old one.(put in other words) I kinda get the jist of what hes saying about kids taking the parents car out for joy rides, I remember myself some friends that beat the hell out of there parents vehicles. I had friends I rode with that did it and let me tell ya we had a blast:lol:eek:f course looking back its not funny now. well yeah it is.:rofl: I had to buy all my own vehicles when I was young except my first one (84 cavalier and this was in 89)which I had for 8 days and totalled it. Had my license for 6 days. Trying to outrun a girlfriend and I quickly took a turn shut off my lights and tailspin into a tree. Man I loved that car with my cragar rims and loud stereo. But mommy bought it so I guess I didnt deserve it. What a huge life lesson learned that day.
     
  9. RayVoy

    RayVoy Well-Known Member 2 Years 1000 Posts

    [MENTION=54154]the phantom[/MENTION] I understand where he was going after he explained it, I just took his previous post as a bash to people who have to, or want to, drive an older vehicle. I'm good, thanks
     
  10. tbplus10

    tbplus10 Epic Member Staff Member 5+ Years 5000 Posts Platinum Contributor

    A wild thought here, is it possible the starter kept spinning? And finslly toasted it self?
    I'd probably start my diagnosys by pulling the plugs and seeing if I could turn over the engine by hand.
    If that doesnt work then I might suspect internal issues.
     

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