Assault Rifle Ban in NY

Discussion in 'Sports & Outdoors' started by the phantom, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. the phantom

    the phantom New Member

    Kind of curiuos if anyone has an opinion on the assault rifle ban just passed by lawmakers in NY. I own an assault rifle that I purchased from an individual about 4 years ago. Now the new law requires me to register it with the government. I can not sell the gun now unless a background check is done on who im selling it to. Also the new law requires me to recertify my pistol permit every 5 years. I guess I dont care about the pistol permit but to make me an instant criminal with my assault rifle is just wrong. Regardless if they give me a certain amount of time to register the AR I still feel that my rights are being violated. I agree with some of the law regarding the mental health backround check items but a lot of this law, from what I am hearing, was pushed through in the dark. Meaning that most of the votes on the law was not given time to even look it over. Normally there is a 3 day comment period and the governor decided that was a bad idea as the gun dealers were packed with purchases of the guns effected. All I can say is if they try to come and take my guns.... they can have them bullets first.
  2. stchman

    stchman New Member

    Just another shining example of the Liberal Socialists eroding the Constitution. I feel sorry for people that live in NY with having to deal with these new laws that will do nothing but let politicians say "See, I did something".

    My advice is for people that are 2nd Amendment people to FLOOD the politicians with letters telling them of how you feel about this and that they will not get your vote if this crap continues.

    I live here in Missouri and have already sent letters to both federal Senators, my federal Representative, my state Senator, my state Representative, and the Governor and Lieutenant Governor.

    We must let the politicians know that if they do crap like this, they'll be looking for a job.
  3. RVJ

    RVJ New Member

    This could turn out like a religeous or a political discussion. Some people think that you don't need a machine gun to hunt rabbits, or a grenade launcher to chase dear, while others think the right to bear arms makes it legal for them or own a sherman tank or their own nuclear warhead. Wear do you sensibly draw the line? Where does common sense come into this?
    A sane person could own a machine gun for 40 years and never get in trouble. A thief could break in to your house, steal your machine gun and kill a hundred people before your family members found you dead and stiff from the thief that wanted your gun.
  4. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 New Member

    the whole mess with the renewed push for gun legislation is insane. its all for the good of the people, and that they did something, never mind itll just make things worse. my advice phantom, is move.

  5. the phantom

    the phantom New Member

    Its tough to just sell the house, find a new job, move away from friends and family. I just wish that there was more reviewing and input into the whole law in itself. Does something need to change? probably.. Do all law abiding gun owners need to suffer the consequences of some very few mentally ill?
  6. aloxdaddy99

    aloxdaddy99 New Member

    I second what [MENTION=57614]stchman[/MENTION] said. Flood your politicians with mail. These people seem to have lost touch with the people that put them in office.
  7. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator

    I was just reading about the new law. Background checks to buy bullets? I have to say that most criminals are not going to buy them, they have them or will steal them. Another line read "In another provision, therapists, doctors and other mental health professionals will be required to tell state authorities if a patient threatens to use a gun illegally. The patient's weapon could then be taken away"... My wife is a mental health professional, it is her duty to report any credible threat that could result in ANYONE being injured. I will ask her but, I believe that it was part of the oath that she took and may already be a federal law. It seems kind of dumb to add that line into the law when doctors already take an oath to protect people also.
  8. the phantom

    the phantom New Member

    Well the one thing I am going to do, and should have long ago, is join the NRA. Although some of thier comments have a little bit to be desired about the gun control issue lately, they are the strongest voice in congress but they seem to not have effected NY laws it seems.
  9. TimTom64b

    TimTom64b New Member

    These new laws will be as successfull as the anti drug, dwi/dui, etc. They are so blind... cant they see that criminals dont follow laws. Also, an AR is only a modular semi automatic rifle... that looks mean. There are other semi automatic rifles, handguns and shotguns which they will go after next. I have an AR that I have highly customized for coyote hunting... they are not going to take mine...:>)
  10. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 New Member

    the best part is, and id have to look it up to ge the exact number, ar-15s were used in something like .06% of homicides in 2011. guess how many homicides were commited with pistols, mostly revolvers? way more. both however, were beaten out by clubs and hammers.

    corse, politicians and logic never go together. (for the most part)

  11. lube70

    lube70 New Member

    Guns don't kill people.....people kill people. If you don't address the mental health issue and the back round checks needed to get a firearm, then there will be more deaths.

    I have a permit to own here in NJ (strict gun laws here), and personally, I feel that no one "needs" an assault rifle. The constitution made it clear in my opinion that the people shall have the right to bear arms against any invader foreign or domestic, which meant that if the government decided to come after the people, the people have the right to defend themselves or if someone breaks into your house, you have the right to defend your family and property.

    Back in the days of the constitution, there was no shoprite or foodlion to shop at. You HAD TO KILL YOUR FOOD...,anyway, think you have it bad, here in NJ, if someone breaks into your house, you have to leave to get away from them instead of defending yourself. If they get hurt, your legally is that right!!!
  12. silverhobey

    silverhobey New Member

    Not sure if any Politician has brought up what you stated about criminals
    not following laws, but the rest of the public has to follow even more laws
    and regulations almost every day in many facets of life.....Brian

    (....but the criminals do what they want, when they want)
  13. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 New Member

    plain and simple. you smash your finger with a hammer, do you blame the hammer? Or do you blame yourself? Same goes with guns. blame the person, not the tool.

  14. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    But our president is a 'tool' and he's absolutely to blame for the latest mandates. Thus, we have one case where it's ok and even appropriate to blame the 'tool'. :happy:
  15. TRPLXL2

    TRPLXL2 New Member

    I can see having one gun per person per household, and assault rifles are just overkill. I have a .45 registered, and I took a gun safety course and I have a ccw permit. That law is stupid in one aspect, It controls the "legal" sale of weapons and ammunition. I go to flea markets all through the summer, and all I see is assault rifles and other probably stolen guns for sale. Who's buying them?? Young teenagers who aren't even carded, meanwhile all the vendor cares about it cash money.

    The mental health thing is also a crock, you might be sane when you buy it but what about down the road? Mental illness comes on people whether they know it or not, I hope that everyone here stays sane.
  16. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    I believe that you mean you see civilian knock-offs that look like assault weapons. They are semi-automatic, not fully automatic ... and therefore they are not actually assault weapons, as no military, national guard, or para-military force would conduct an assault with the semi-automatic knock-offs sold on the civilian market.

    Frankly, neither would I if I needed to do so for some unforseeable reason.
  17. stchman

    stchman New Member

    There are already laws about selling firearms to underage (BTW, most states it is legal for you to buy a rifle when you're 18), and felons. Do we need laws to say that it is now more illegal?

    Also, can you give me a specific definition on what EXACTLY as "assault" rifle is? I am a gun enthusiast and I don't even know what an "assault" rifle is. Also, cosmetic features(color, shape, texture, hand position) don't count in the definition or example.

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    Last time I checked it was the Bill Of Rights, not the Bill Of Needs.

    Remember, the 2nd Amendment has ZERO to do with hunting and feeding yourself and everything to do with the citizens being the last line in the defense against tyranny.
  18. the phantom

    the phantom New Member

    Your right nobody "needs" an assault rifle.... Yet. If you consider any rifle that is a semi-automatic with some sort of military type feature (very open to interpretation) then I believe it is now illegal to purchase. A lot of people use these style rifles for hunting fox, coyote, bear, and deer. Ive taken my AK-47 out deer hunting to be able to shoot 200 yards which in most part is unfeasible with a shotgun. It should be my choice what gun I would like to use for hunting, target shooting, and my home defense. I should not have to "advertise" or register to the government what I keep in my safe at my house if I have never had any run-ins with the law or have any mental health issues. I think the government needs to have mental illness checked because it sure seems like they're going to hell in a hand basket.

    As far as your other comment that you must leave your house if someone is breaking in. I find that hard to believe that you are not allowed to defend yourself. I sure know where I wouldn't move to when I decide to leave NY....And I will leave NY... eventually.
  19. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 New Member

    virginia, (outside of DC) is very gun friendly....

  20. TimTom64b

    TimTom64b New Member

    I dont know about this... If I do not take my rifles out enough the start whining at the door cause they want out.... and sometimes I even think they go without me. the only way I know is the bipod tracks in the snow and having to clean dirty rifles when I had not used them. They do have a mind of their own...:))))

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