Border Patrol Stop Video

Discussion in 'The Coffee Shop ~ Chit Chat' started by Curky, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. Curky

    Curky New Member

    I saw this on Facebook and had to share. What do you think?
    Wrong? Or Right?

    I will start.
    If you don't like it, then vote against it. There are other ways to go about what they are doing. Don't give the men and women doing there job a hard time. They did not make the rules but following them. Just say yes and go. I have mix feeling on this.
  2. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator Staff Member

    We don't have those check points here. I guess that the government is not worried about Canadians sneaking in, you know those guys like [MENTION=54249]RayVoy[/MENTION]. :lol:I think up there that Canada is more concerned about our citizens sneaking over to Canada, than we are their citizens sneaking here. I do see border patrol vehicles on the freeway pretty often, bit have never been stopped. Maybe those check points get annoying for those that live near them. I don't know. But, I would just answer yes and be on my way. now if they wanted to search my vehicle for no good reason I would have an issue. Not that I have anything to hide. I just don't like the idea, just like if I got pulled over by a local officer. I am super respectful when I speak to law enforcement. "Yes, Sir. No, Sir" But, if they think that they are going to rummage thru my truck for no reason or without a warrant then I will have an issue. I did get stopped going over the border to Canada one night. They opened my truck door (a sonoma that I literally owned for 48 hours) looked inside, said "this thing is brand new" let the drug dog walk by and let me on my way. I have never had an issue crossing back into the states. I have had some officers be cocky jerks, but I just continue to answer their questions and eventually they let me go home. I have friends that have been jerks to the border officers when returning back to the states. They ripped their trucks apart, I mean foam out of the seats and everything. Then they looked at them and said "we did not find anything, you are free to put your vehicle back together and be on your way".
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2013
  3. jsmith4816

    jsmith4816 New Member

    From my background (lots of CJ classes) I can say almost every time someone challenges an officer, they become suspicious. With that red flag, they have a duty as an officer to find out why. A person can comply with the officer, or they can be an ass and pull this sh**. Just answer the question and be on your way. That is one thing I hate about the field I am trying to go into. Dealing with Mr or Mrs know-it-all and them challenging everything, or being a smartass with a camera who just wants to post sh** on youTube and facebook. Sorry, rant over lol
  4. Guardrail

    Guardrail New Member

    These idiots are as Douchy as the open carry fanatics looking for a confrontation. I despise them both, especially if I'm behind them in line.
  5. Enkeiavalanche

    Enkeiavalanche Moderator

    And know there rights They are Swarn in and have the rights to Take every bolt and NUT off of your car to search for what ever they like to Protect the US.. If you wave that` and act like the Idiots in that video Then can do what they have to.. I would not` mouth off to a boarder patrol Ever...
  6. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator Staff Member

    100% agree!
  7. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

    I think the US/Canadian border is pretty open. We cross back and forth many, many, times a year. Usually the US side want to know where we're going, how long and are we leaving anything in the US. Coming back, the Canadian side wants to know the value of goods purchased (so they can collect the imposed Fed Sales Tax).

    I've had the Canadian guys ask to look in the trunk/rear of truck, to make sure we gave the right info re purchases. And I always have the US side look in the back of the truck.

    Oh, I forgot, the Canadian side always wants to know about firearms. Funny thing, I need a permit to purchase ammo in Canada (yes, I have one), but I can bring it across the border without needing the permit (the permit is needed to purchase, not to carry).
  8. Camaro69car

    Camaro69car New Member

    ahem, I open carry religiously. Not because I am looking for confrontation, but due to the fact I cannot conceal my handgun's nor can I afford a smaller one.

    I'm not a douche about it though.
  9. BRB46

    BRB46 New Member

    I'm torn here. Do citizens have rights, sure we do. Why give BP a hassle like that. They are just doing their job. Kinda scary that if anyone resists like that they ultimately let them pass. It is just a simple yes or no question and you are on your way.
  10. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

    You don't really think BP would just say "Oh, sorry sir, you go right ahead"? In Canada, that would be grounds for a search of the vehicle, and I'm pretty sure, your guys would be even more aggressive.
  11. j cat

    j cat Active Member

    I have been to Arizona many times. when your around the 20 mile mark from the border going north you will be stopped.

    I have seen many illegals looking to get a ride on the road shoulders they are usually in groups of 5-10 people. In the summer they look like there ready to collapse from the desert heat. I hope these border patrol workers do the job of protecting us from the extreme dangers that do occur from the wrong people entering our country . you do have to put up with this because it is that necessary. the people that live in these areas are living in fear.

    many homes are broken into and these illegals steal all your stuff and take a free shower on there way north to states like Massachusetts where they get free food/shelter/education/ then they make bombs and blow the place up.
  12. Guardrail

    Guardrail New Member

    Then you are not the one I am talking about. I'm talking about the idiots that purposely strap on a gun and go out looking for a fight with the cops. They are idiots, and they get all indignant when the cops hassle them. They are looking for their 15 minutes of fame and when they find it, they get pissy.
  13. BRB46

    BRB46 New Member

    I sure would hope there was a little more to it than just letting them go. I half expected them to be dragged out the window and spread eagle on the pavement.
  14. BurbanMan

    BurbanMan Member

    I think the agents are doing the job they are assigned to do and the questions should have been answered.
  15. USAF-Suburban

    USAF-Suburban New Member

    The family and I live in Alamogordo, NM which is not too far from the Mexico border. We travel to Las Cruces and El Paso all the time so we go through these border patrol checkpoints everytime we visit either place. I personally do not have an issue adding another minute or so to my trip. And when they ask if we are American citizens I say yes and we press on.
  16. zuki82

    zuki82 New Member

    I just don't go over there anymore! Canada has nothing I want! I got tired of dealing with border guards, or there version of DOT, and their rude drivers on the highway! A buddy of mine used to go up there every year to go sledding! Last year they gave him such a hard time at the border, he came home! He said screw it, spend thousands of dollars up there every year, and get treated like that, he'll stay here and ride! I agree with him!
  17. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

    I would like to hear the whole story (not just your condensed version). Yeah, we have rude drivers, so does every state I have ever driven through. I doubt if the DOT, in Ontario, would give you any more problems than the DOT in any of the lower 48. I will say, the US DOT guys will post construction ahead signs for a much greater distance than the Ontario guys, but I can't see that getting anyone upset. I also doubt if the Canadian BP treated you and your friend any different than your BP treats us when we enter the US. Both of us are just trying to keep the undesirables out.

    It has been my experience that you get what you give. Piss people/guards off and it's not going to be a good experience.
  18. Curky

    Curky New Member

    I will have to say.
    We all have an opinion. And this is a great read on all of it. Let's not get into the little stuff. My point was that I understand what they are trying to say and do agree to a point. Not the way they are doing it. That is why we have voting. I bet half of the people that did this voted against illegal aliens.
    Well, how and the he'll do you think they are going to do it??????
    With putting my political views here. Ok, if you are illegal and get into trouble= by by....
    Should you get free ****= no
    But they still come to better there lives= good for you
    What people don't realize if they all were legal a head of lettuce would be $5-$10. . Do you know someone that will work for $6HR ON A 11HR DAY. I dont.
    It is like a flip of a quarter 50/50 on the good ones and the bad ones. We need the good one but not the bad. They love there family's and there yards/houses are clean. See why I'm so mixed here on my opinion.
    Now let's not get into a big thing (fighting). A mild debate is fine but always remember we all Love our GM and support our country. Just because we don't agree on everything don't mean we don't love our country.
  19. Curky

    Curky New Member

    Reading all this. It does seem we all lean the same way but with smaller different opinions on it. I just want people to think before they post. We can have our options w/o bashing on others.....
    We all love our GM Truck or car. I'm going to applying for a job with them this week. Yes, it is an hour drive away but if they give me what I want per hour, counting in my MPG with a GM. If they start me at 10hr then my mpg ( about 30 cent s per gallon) about 12-14 an hour. My math might be a little off but really. I want to be comfortable not ritch with room To move up.
    Then i will be be conftetbal
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2013
  20. j cat

    j cat Active Member

    If I were a construction contractor I would be in favor of no border patrol. or perhaps an owner of rental properties of a few hundred units. give them free rent and work them hard for little. when they screw up I say go home. not my problem.

    I would have to learn their lingo first.

    The opinions of most people are created by their life experiences ... not from the political boobs running our country.

    I was never in favor of people coming here illegally from any country . it is against the law any way so why make argument about it .

    look at the law in mexico if you wish to go there illegally . that is the kind of program we should have here.

    like any group of people some are bad and some good , there here illegally that's all that matters.

    here in Massachusetts the eastern portion you would never know its the USA !

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