broken spark plug

Discussion in 'GM Powertrain' started by Conlan Rose, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    So I tried doing the simplest task ever in a car, replacing spark plugs. Well it didn't work even with using the proper tools I broke the first spark plug I tried to take out. The metal snapped not the insulator, so now I have part of a spark plug stuck in the cylinder of the truck and I can't drive it anywhere. I know the only real way to fix it is drive it to a shop, but I'm not sure I can drive it with out possible damage to the engine. My mom's friend is a certified GM tech I will be asking him to look at it next week. I'm so frigging pissed, how the **** does that happen!?!?:grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr:
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  2. Enkeiavalanche

    Enkeiavalanche Moderator

    I think you better get used to a Bike... j/k... Did you use a Flex head on your socket?
  3. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    No I did not because you're not supposed to because it causes a shear force. The only extension I used was a 2 inch one to get the ratchet away from the header a bit. Also it just didn't wanna come out. I will say I used a 5/8ths deep well not a spark plug socket because the plug socket couldn't get on it properly.

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  4. dpeter

    dpeter New Member

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    Well, what would you expect for something so rare? I have changed a lot of plugs on a lot of different engines but have never seen that one before. Stripped a few threads and broke my share of insulators but not that. My first thought was to use an easy out but then realized that what was left of the electrode and insulator would end up in the cylinder so that was out. I would not even attempt to start or drive it since parts of that plug may likely end up in the cylinder and cause much damage. I think you're going to have to pull the head to have that taken care of. What brand of plug is that? Best of luck with that!
  5. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    They are AC Delcos! That's what's weird. I'm gonna have it looked at by a GM tech and see what he has to say about it. This makes me think that the plugs in the truck have been in there a very long time to be that stuck.
  6. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator

    Does that truck have aluminum or steel heads? I have seen that happen a few times in aluminum heads, only once or twice in steel. I would have to say that I have mostly seen it happen on fords for some reason. (mostly the V-6 in the ranger and explorer) I wonder if they are the original plugs! Unfortunately, I have always had to pull the head to repair it. That is why I always put anti-seize on threads of new plugs when I replace them. Looks like you may be doing heads on your truck Colan! I would pull the head and take it to a shop and have them get the plug out. The machine shop near me charges around $120 a head for a rebuild, grind valves, new valve seats, new valve seals, etc.. You might as well have them do it to the one while it is off. Is it the passenger side? (the side that was making all the noise?)
  7. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    I don't remember but since its a cast iron block so they are probably steel. And yah it was on the pass side how'd you guess :lol:. I have the anti seize for the new plugs. $120 isn't bad for all that, but I know places by me will be a lot more. Its just a pain because right now money is tight and I only have a couple hundred in the bank. Just looking at the plug it looks really old. This spring I was going to do the intake gaskets guess that's happening sooner than planed.
  8. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

    Whoa, hold on before writing the cheque. That plug broke because of the socket that was used (using a plug socket keeps the turning forces 90 degrees to the perpendicular of the plug). The good news, I think, is that there should be some plug body sticking out of the head (everything between the part that looks like a nut and the shoulder that crushes the gasket). See if you can find a broken stud socket that will slide over what is left hopefully grab the plug enough to loosen it.
  9. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    I will try to get my hands on one of those. Btw I had tried to use the proper spark plug socket, but it was not long enough to actually get on the hex of the plug. I used a 6 point 5/8th deep well that I tested the fit on the new plugs.
  10. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

    I saw where you said you had problems with the plug wrench. There is a rubber insert, at the top of the plug socket, with a hole for the tip of the plug to slide into. sometimes, the hole gets filled with crap, maybe that's what's wrong with yours.
  11. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    It was not and the end of the plug was in the rubber but the socket was just not long enought it was close tho. I will have to see if I ave another plug socket around to see if that one is better. Still need to get the broken one off.
  12. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

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  13. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    Thanks :smile:
  14. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator

    Did you get it out? if so, How did you do it?
  15. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    Not yet, the person who has the tool I need is coming over today. We will be using a a 5/8th bolt extractor. I hope it works and none of the plug is in the cylinder.

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    Never mind on today he had an issue and had to take care of his mother. He will be here early tomorrow while I'm at school my mom will stay home to give him keys and access to my tools if he needs them. Very frustrating not having a car..... In this time I could have bought the tool my self and had it shipped via snail mail.
  16. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    Well theres no hope... plug is in there to stay... so I'm ****ed not much else to say. I just Idk...... I think I'm done with it just done.....

    Any one want a 1996 Tahoe with 7cy can't pass emissions, and broke plug?
  17. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator

    Sorry to hear that! Good news though. Pulling the head off is not all that hard. Other than the fact that it will cost money to repair, you are not that screwed.
  18. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    I can't currently afford to do it and it just doesn't feel worth doing the who know how expensive repair, especially because she has almost 200,000 miles, is beat up and after doing those gaskets and repairs it may just cause something else to break.

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    It will cost around $350 in just supplies....
    Head gasket set: 119.99
    Head bolt set x2: 16.99 per
    Anti freeze full strength Dex-cool x3: 15.99 per
    Synthetic oil 1qt x6: 8.99 per
    Oil filter: 6.99
    Fuel filter: 14.99-30.00
    Plug wire set: 38.00
    Tax rate is 6.35%

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    The two shops I use either charge 98.00 an hour or 90 an hour. I'm not sure how much it will cost because after all that you need to include price for getting the heads done and removing the plugs. this is gonna end up adding up to like $2,000 in repair costs.

    Also learned my left ABS sensor is dead and pass side cat is dead....$180 for the sensor and new exhaust is $650 then I will also need new O2 sensors at 60 per. Its more than the ****ing truck is worth.

    I want to feel that it is worth it but it just feels not. If anyone is willing to convince me that its worth this huge sum of money to get her fixed please I'm listening.
  19. RayVoy

    RayVoy Active Member

    I wouldn't give up that quickly, I know you tried a stud extractor, try a screw extractor. I found this, http://www.tigraionline.com/broken_sparkplug.html

    The only problem with the screw extractor is the danger of the tip falling into the cylinder.
  20. Conlan Rose

    Conlan Rose Super Moderator

    The plug is rusted to the block the only way to remove it is to drill it out.

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