MoogVO, I don't play the dealer games. I've been in the car business in one form or another for 15 years. I know all the tricks, but the getting ripped off isn't the reason why I won't trade. Take my 99, when I bought my 06 crew cab Z71 the 99 Z71 had 406k miles. The best I could get was 2k. Forget that, its worth the 2k to keep the truck and use it to hunt out of. I know what ya mean on dealers getting ya good, my brother-in-law owes 87,000 on his 2012 2500HD. Talk about roll over debt. I don't buy a new vehicle until my other vehicle is payed off and I can pay half the price in cash.