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Edge Evolution help please

Discussion in 'Performance & Fuel' started by jmonte3, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. jmonte3

    jmonte3 Rockstar 100 Posts

    Just purchased Edge Evolution performance chip for an 07 NBS Sierra 5.3L Z71...has anyone used this programmer b4? most importantly can a automotive retard program it by himself without professional help?
  2. zippy

    zippy Rockstar 100 Posts

    Since the Evolution isn't street legal in SoCal, I've no direct knowledge. However, after reading reviews and the instructions pdf, it seems pretty easy and straight forward. You ask
    do you mean selecting between the Evolution's preset program options, or entering custom data? If you can get your posting to this forum, then you can operate the Evolution with no problem. As far as custom programming is concerned, is there something specific you want to do, or do you want to go "exploring"? Before you do anything, read the section on returning your custom program to stock. If it doesn't make total sense to you, don't change anything. When you do your tuner tricks, keep a written log of what changes you make. IMHO, run it for a while until you're thoroughly familiar with its operation before you start changing things. Like so much stuff we get these days, it takes a little time for the menu layout and options to become second nature.
  3. Maximous

    Maximous Rockstar

    why is edge illegal in cali, yall are strict as hell out there
  4. zippy

    zippy Rockstar 100 Posts

    "Why" you ask... liberal, touchy-feely politicians who want to feel good, that's why.
    It's all in the name of clean air. Remember, when you see a "50-states legal" CARB approval number on something, CARB stands for California Environmental Protection Agency, Air Resources Board. They govern everything from back-yard BBQ air pollution to cow fart gas.
    With cars, they set the new car pollution control standards (adopted by other states), regulate fuel formulation, govern smog tests and monitor aftermarket parts. Out here, before you can renew your tags, you have to pass a visual inspection and a computer controlled operational diagnosis. Any aftermarket equipment that might change emissions must be approved by CARB. This approval is not a free service provided by the state, and the equipment manufacturer must submit test data confirming that the product meets the applicable requirements. This can involve considerable time and money.
    Programmers with robust capabilities will find CARB requirements too strict. I'm guessing the Edge folks didn't even consider CARB approval. Since California is such a large market, makers of other programmers find it cost effective to get CARB approval. These are gernerally limited to variables like changes in tire size and shift points. Because of CARB's very rigid rules concerning exhaust emissions, the Federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) accepts CARB approval as evidence that an aftermarket part is clean and suitable for use in all other states.
    Yes, it's all a big pain in the butt for California drivers; however, I must honestly admit, the air quality out here has vastly improved over the years while the number of vehicles has sky rocketed. Without CARB, the air in the Los Angeles basin would be much worse than Beijing's.
  5. Maximous

    Maximous Rockstar

    makes sense i guess, funny though, cuz in alabama its common to see 4x4s with straight pipes and our air is nice and pretty
  6. zippy

    zippy Rockstar 100 Posts

    It's all a matter of density and geography: Alabama has a population of 4.6 million and Los Angeles County alone has 10 million. Add neighboring Kern (1), Orange (3), San Bernardino (2), and Ventura (1) counties and you get an area total of around 17 million (USCB 2006 est.).
    Los Angeles is in a natural basin that's subject to inversion layers -- before the Europeans arrived, natives called it the valley of smoke. Throw in all those people and heavy industries, and the air gets progressively nasty and nastier.
    I live a little south of L.A. in San Diego County. We have a population of 3 million and share L.A.'s air when the winds blow. It can be crystal clear down here, but if you look out to sea, gray clouds from L.A. can block your view of the islands and horizon.
  7. Pete95Sierra

    Pete95Sierra Epic Member 5+ Years ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    i thought the edge chips were just a plug and play system with multiple settings, no?
  8. zippy

    zippy Rockstar 100 Posts

    The Evolution in question, for a 2007 Z71 5.3, is limited to pre-set engine and transmission programs and a limited custom selection of:
    • Gear ratio
    • Tire size
    • Speed Limiter
    The Evolution for a 2003 F-Series Triton V8 is more flexible. In addition to gear ratio, tire size and speed limiter it allows adjustments for:
    • Wide Open Throttle Shifting
    • Shift Firmness
    • Rev. Limiter
    • Timing
    • WOT Fuel
    With this older Ford unit, the last three parameters give you a lot more control (and ways to get into trouble) than the newer GM unit. It should be noted that the Evolution's firm and software are up-datable via your PC. Needless to say, to a tuner/hacker this may open the unit to custom settings beyond you wildest imagination.
  9. Maximous

    Maximous Rockstar

    well that paints a pretty picture :lol:
  10. Pete95Sierra

    Pete95Sierra Epic Member 5+ Years ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    you should sell these things.... really :great:

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