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Few pictures from my drive at night with new HID's

Discussion in 'Lighting Discussion' started by Ridyn, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Ridyn

    Ridyn New Member

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    So, before I post my how-to guide on how to install the HID's into the newer Silverados I'm going to show ya'll what it looks like after I installed mine!

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    looks great! just watch out for the glare and make sure it aint too bad
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    Yeah I'm going to go for some more test rides tomorrow night and adjust as needed so I'm not blinding oncoming traffic. I've been on that end of the road and it's definitely not fun!
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    yup, just pull up to a garage or wall or something, and look above where the reflector cuts the lights off, and kinda be your own judge on how much glare there is (if any at all, because i believe the newer headlights have been more HID friendly with more accurate beam pattern)
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    Where are the pics of oncoming drivers flipping you off for blinding them? LOL! I have a buddy that had HIDs and took them back off because he got tired of everyone high beaming him. I have a couple of other buddies who are cops that pull people over and ticket them for having lights that are too bright. As a firefighter, I have been dispatched to accidents that were caused by those things blinding oncoming drivers.

    In our state, they are technically illegal unless your car was manufactured with them... In fact, some insurance companies are refusing to pay claims on vehicles that are not equipped with OEM lighting. That's why you don't see the weekend automotive how-to shows installing them. They can be a huge liability.

    I'm not hatin'... Just sayin'!

    Still, I'm sure I will get bashed over this post!
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    Can you cite a source showing them to be illegal in NC? I looked at the statutes some time ago and found that we can run as many lights up front as we want and have no HID restrictions AS LONG AS what we run (HID or not, 20 beams or 2 beams) does not cause glare for oncoming drivers. That seemed to be the litmus test ... and as not all HID installs cause glare, you're basically legit if you don't.

    I even cited the statues I found ... somewhere in one of my many posts on this site. I'd like to see your citation of statues to the contrary, please -- just for my own edification.
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    Interesting, I don't think Texas has these laws either. I would think that Texas would want us to be able to see as much as we can to avoid hitting deer and wild hogs! HID's saved my ars more than enough times when I used to drive my GTO to my parents house. IF it weren't for me running HID's in that car...oh dear I would have hit a deer!

    See what I did there!? xD
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    well that whole deal is a fuzzy area, its up to the cop, but ill give yall a little experienced lesson, (from TEXAS fyi)
    My family and i were leavin MUDFEST earlier this year prolly around 10:00 pm and my brother and I both have HID's. I have a projector set up, he just has aftermarket reflectors. (Decent quality and HID's in them)

    Im in my truck and he was in his ford excursion (6" lift). All of a sudden driving down the back roads after leavin, (I was following him) I saw a car in front of him abrubtly pull to the shoulder then completely cut me off to get behind him, (it was a cop nonetheless) flashed his lights, pulled him over. Naturally seeing we were in a small town, i wasnt about to let this cop pull my brother out of the car and harass him for whatever it was.

    My sister and her fiance, and one of their friends were riding with him and I was behind them by myself in my truck. So naturally I pulled up about 50 ft behind the cop to observe and watch and record everything that went on, and called my sister to record everything as well, they did...

    needless to say the cop came out with attitude saying HID's are illegal in texas on any vehicle, (i made sure my HID's were on, because i was hoping he was gonna say something to me after being done with my little brother (so HID's in the low beam and my Fog beams were on)

    Though he never said anything to me, just wanted to pull over a big truck leaving mudfest cuz it was quick money obviously. Well, all in all the cop ended up forcing him to get out of the car, pushed him up against the door, all kinds of inappropriate stuff, while my sister was on the phone with 911 in the passenger seat calling about this mistreatment.

    But of course they could not do anything about it. after all was said and done the cop came back with a ticket claiming "illegal equipment-HID" and my brother being not as smart as me just signed it thinking it was a warning but no in fact it was a ticket. At this point i was very satisfied that we would get the ticket dismissed.

    First off, my brother never claimed any statement about having HID or even xenon for that matter, and the cop never popped the hood to inspect and prove they were in fact HID's. He just said they were HIDs and of course cops think they know everything. So there was no proof of the fact that they were HID's which would not matter even if they were because they are legal "so long as there is no distracting level of glare".

    Aside from the improper use of force and everything else this cop did wrong, we of course took this to court less than a week later, no argument or anything, the judge dropped everything on the spot stating that HIDs are legal.
    just an FYI this was in Poth, Texas, if your wondering where.
    ( it gave me a nice ego boost :glasses:)
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    Capitalization and paragraphs, please -- that wall of text was painful to read!
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    gahh! you had to be that guy...
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    hope this is better surreal! lol i was in a rush gimme a break
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    Most southern states have very slack light laws. Just make sure you got them all lined up and you'll be fine. And as far as blinding people when I'm n my convert cobra I get blinded by every single car that has oem hids. Not fun when I'm on twisting back roads
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    In response to "as many lights as we want":
    With regard to the legality of HID lamps, they are not expressly prohibited. however, there are laws with regard to the aim of ALL lights with regard to oncoming traffic and pedestrians:

    most aftermarket HID installs are in violation of this!

    It goes on to talk about proper certification of lamps to meet the vehicle code here:

    Also, all vehicle lighting MUST be DOT approved for use on roads, highways and public vehicular areas. There are PLENTY of non-approved kits out there that are marked "Off Road Use Only".

    For me, just because something isn't EXPRESSLY prohibited doesn't mean that I am going to do it on the principle. It is my real world experience that just because something isn't written as "illegal" doesn't mean that the cops won't give you a hard time over it. For example... Owning a Crown Victoria with 3 antennas on the deck lid and button hubcaps is not necessarily "impersonating a police officer", but you can bet that the cops will see it and keep an eye on it, waiting for the driver to do something stupid. A good friend of mine who is a cop told me "I can FIND something wrong with every single vehicle on the road... All I need is a 'reason' to pull them over. Blinding and/or colored headlights are a good enough reason for me."

    Cars with factory HID lighting have properly designed lenses that focus the light beams. factory headlight housings intended for incandescent lighting are not designed that way and will scatter the light in such a manner as to be distracting to oncoming traffic.
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    This is what I have found so far in our laws here in Texas.

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    You're preaching to the choir, moog, but as noted, HIDs are not, themselves, illegal in NC -- it's a completely subjective judgement call on whether lights were causing glare, as I suspected.

    And as for the 'as many as we want', I should have been more clear in that I was speaking about my low, high, and fog beams all being able to be on per the diode mod. How? Technically, among them, only the fogs are 'auxiliary driving lamps' ... meaning I can have all six on at once if I like ... since only two of them constitute 'auxiliary driving lamps'.

    I've rolled up behind and past Cary cops (which are notorious sticklers) without issue, so I think I'm ok ... but I'm only running a diode mod with DOT-approved bulbs in DOT-approved housings. :)
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    I'm curious...how bright is 300 candlepower? lol
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    I grew up in Cary, so I know all about those guys... BY NAME! LOL!

    BTW... I can show you how your diode mod could be much mo better and net you brighter light. A diode drops voltage by 9/10ths of a volt. There is another way where there is zero drop and MUCH brighter light ;)
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    It must go better than the tranny gauge install. The gauge is in ... but doesn't work ... and the stealerships are being a PITA about it. PM me details?
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    WOW! The lights look great. That's pretty much the same set-up I'm going for (5000K). I'm glad you posted, instantly convinced me.
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    Yep, just make sure if you want yours to be like mine with that type of light output while on the open highway, you're going to want to go with 55W 5000K low beams and 35W 5000K fog lamps. At first it's going to look like your fogs are more blue than the headlamps, but after a while of operation they'll whiten up a bit.
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