No this is off topic as the OP has stated above....:rules: ---------- Post added at 05:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:31 PM ---------- Ya thats the first sign of denial. Nobody said otherwise. But the facts your stating do not make actual experiences of other members and what they use any less valuable. Sometimes facts are good for Jepoardy but other than that it makes you boring. Shot in the dark methods? Like what? Companies sell a product people buy it. Its called free commerce. If you dont like it dont buy it. I just dont see why you have to create a thread offer up some info then call everyone stupid who doesnt fall at your feet and thank you for it. Thats certainly in proportion. You better state the ground rules of what can be added to your threads in the future and save yourself from having to deal with us inferior posters.