Hahaha.. i believe that counts twice as much. Except I'm getting a divorce haha, so my "workouts" tend to be with random people. hahaha While ordering online may actually be the cheapest option as far as pricing goes, I chose to stick to going into the store for a few reasons: 1)I needed to talk to someone who i could physically SEE knew what they were talking about, as I am already a fairly built guy and wanted to cut/lean up 2) I spend 20+ days a month stuck in the (oil)field, so shipping is the least convenient for me 3) Also becaues i spend so much time in the field (usually in small travel trailers)... my workouts are VERY limited. I'm planning to order a set of Bowflex Selectech Dumbells and a bench to drag out here with me, but as for now i just stopped at walmart and picked up a 40lb hex dumbell and stick to lots of reps.. got off subject kinda sorry, So i wanted to talk to them about how i should plan my limited workout to get the best results. 4) These guys deal with the supplements and results on a daily basis, so given all my conditions for working out, they could give me the best possible combination available. I hear you there, I am actually very surprised at what kind of results doing a buttload of reps lighter weight one arm at a time is giving me, and it actually helps to isolate the muscle i want to work out. GMTC Elite Fitness Club hahahaha.. I'm actually enjoying taking care of myself.. Getting started is the hardest part, but after that it becomes addicting and NOT working out/staying healthy just feels WRONG. And as far as the current supplements / lean mass shred cycle I am on, the guys at Complete Nutrition have hooked me up with this: Legal Limit Labs (LLL)-Oxan-VR (1,765mg anabolic testosterone enhancer X3 pills a day) LLL Hardcore Legal Series- Adrenalize (701mg energy enhancer/appetite suppressant X2 pills a day to start) The M.A.S.S. Project- Omega Shred (??mg Anti-catabolic complex/ liqui-lean muscle cutting blend X4 pills a day) ProComplete ONE - V-Core Protein Supplement shake (20g protein 8-hour absorption blend X2 a day) ***FYI*** I started on Strawberry because that all they had... it was absolutely disgusting.. made me gag everytime i took it haha. I just switched to Chocolate and it is quite tasty (well.. as tasty as a protein shake can get anyway) This is what the 60 day lean mass shred cycle consists of... and it works great from what i can see so far. Since i started the cycle i've added (at the descretion of Complete Nutrition employees): The M.A.S.S. Project - NX6 (3300mg Nitric Oxide plasma amplifier X4 pills 15 mins before workout) The M.A.S.S. Project- Blitzz (6g scoop Kre-Alkalyn/Creatine/Energizing drink mix X1 scoop 30 mins before workout) **Cherry Ice flavor is awesome** and this is a VERY light amount of Creatine. Those who have taken Nitric Oxide before know the feeling you get when it hits you, I'm gonna go ahead and say that this NX6 supplement is the best I've had as of yet (compared to Plasmajet which is no longer in production, and GNC N.O.). And adding these two things has amped my drive to workout EXTREMELY. To show how instense most of these supplements actually are, there are labels warning that any person that competes in events subject to the WADA Anti-Doping Code, should not use them lol. From what i can see, everything listed here is formulated exclusively for Complete Nutrition, which only adds to my confidence in the store. Pricetag total: $483.94 before taxes The prices are quite high, but upon talking with the sales associates (who are in all seriousness REALLY care about personal care and fitness) I have actually received about $145 of these products FREE and been given discounts, bringing my total spent at Complete to $367.91 after taxes. Not a bad deal for these (so far) awesome supplements. I do still take a good mix of daily vitamins for joint health etc. which i agree [MENTION=28925]ahmitchell1[/MENTION] is very important to health throughout the body.