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Helping people who are stuck?

Discussion in 'The Coffee Shop ~ Chit Chat' started by oxendale, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. stchman

    stchman Active Member 1 Year 1000 Posts

    A few years ago I was stuck in a snow drift. A guy pulled over and pulled me out. I tried to give him some money and he refused to take it.

    I in turn help people someone that is stuck whenever I can.
  2. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    I must be the only staunch capitalist, around. LOL! I'm charitable enough when it comes to those in actual need. I think that's key. Need. I'd never charge someone in need.

    The guy in the BMW who is stuck during a non-emergency event because he was going to the convenience store for some smokes ... isn't in need. He can afford a tow truck ... and afford to wait. He can pay me if he doesn't want to wait ... or he can wait.

    I'm very curious how @Enkeiavalanche handles this, as I know he advertises use of his truck on Craigslist in order to make extra cash. Those people who require a truck to help them move stuff are not much different from those people who require a truck to help them move their vehicles back onto the road. He charges for moving their stuff. Does he charge for helping them get back on the road? Both are services, so I'd expect some consistency if no one's in any danger or true 'need'.
  3. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator Staff Member 3 Years ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    I agree. I would not charge someone who is in need. A lady with a car load of kids that has a flat or an elderly person with a flat. I have no issue changing a tire for someone on the side of the road if they are in need. Most the time they offer to pay me something. If it is one of the above cases I refuse any pay. I am not going to take money from someone with a bunch of kids in their car. I know what it is like. I am also not going to accept money from an elderly person, I expect them to be on a fixed income. Getting that tire fixed is going to hurt their monthly budget as it is. If I am at an offroad park then charging someone never happens. Everyone is there to help each other. When a ford or dodge gets stuck the GM truck swarm to it so they can have the satisfaction of pulling it out. One time at Silver Lake sand dunes I buried my truck to the frame. A big ford came over to help me. I just waved him by and said, "No thanks". About 30 seconds later a nice late 70's silverado pulled up. It was an middle aged guy with his 5 or 6 year old daughter. I will never forget the look of Joy on that little girl's face when her dad pulled me out. So, I gave another chevy owner the joy of pulling me out, snubbed a Ford, and had fun all at the same time.
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2013
  4. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    I don't discriminate based on age, as that's patently unfair. I have other reasons for this, too. For example, if you helped my father he would INSIST on compensating you. He's elderly ... and on a fixed income. However, he's also from an era where the correct and proper thing to do is to compensate a stranger for aid rendered ... and his personal pride and sensibilities would be hurt if he could not offer you something in return for what you did for him -- whether it was in the form of cash or simply giving you his name and number, telling you what he is good at, and telling you to call him if you ever needed him.

    He would not let you leave empty handed. I grew up with that and am that way, myself. I interact with men of all ages as a result of some of my extracurricular activities ... and most of those who are my father's age are like this. Hence, if an elderly person insisted on compensation even after I declined, I'd likely accept something (be it a phone number, cash, whatever) in order to avoid offending him/her. Keep that in mind when deciding how to handle it ... if it ever comes up.
  5. barefoot greg

    barefoot greg Rockstar 100 Posts

    I always stop, man, woman, teenager, doesnt matter if theyre off in the rut or have a flat i always stop n make sure they're ok. If i'm pulling them out i tell them before i hook anything up that its at their risk. This one time we were partying to one of my buddies houses which was on the cross roads of 2 highways, well around midnite i happened to notice headlights shining prettymuch straight n i realized it was someone down in the ditch so i hopped in the truck n went to help em out.

    It wound up being 2 asians in a minivan from NYC askin how to get to to the bridge( i live right on the canadian border.) well the car wasnt stuck too bad so i asked if they minded if i try driving it out, they said they didnt mind. Well when I opened the door i almost got knocked over with the stank of reefer. I noticed the whole back of the van was piled with blankets covering something. So I got in, started rockin it n after about 3 back n forths i had the thing out. I hop back out n just as im walkin back to my truck, they come up after me askin how much.
    Im like you dont me anything im just glad i could help, well the guy forced a bill on me so I take it n thank them, got in my truck n hit the road.

    Not sure if its good karma or bad helpin smugglers out of the ditch or not but the best part about this story is when i got back to the party, I look in my pocket and the guy gave me a hundred bucks!!

    The reason I always stop is because i was driving too fast one winter upta huntin camp n spun out. the road was on the side of a hill with about a 15 foot drop to the river below. At about 45 mph i put the Z71 sticker into a hickory tree on the river side. I get out of the truck and as i go to set my feet on the ground i free fall about 4 feet n then slide down the hill n into the water. Soaking wet i climbed back up the bank and up into my truck. Freezing im sitting there not knowing what im gonna do. Its 9 oclock at night, Its snowing to beat the band, My trucks stuck 5 miles from camp on a back road and I'm wet.

    Well doesn't a lifted red 3/4 ton avalanche come along and stop. The guy in it didnt have a strap but I did so between the 2 of us We got her out. I chuckle about it sometimes that I made a deal with the devil(RED AV) that night to get out of the sinking ship i was in and thats why i have to help people every time i see people stuck. lol

    E_HILLMAN Member 1 Year

    Could you imagine the police pulling up just as you were driving the van out? :whistle::surprised::jap::rules::lol:
  7. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator Staff Member 3 Years ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    That was the first thing I thought of. I was reading along and waiting to get to the part that the cops pulled up just when he got it out. Then the two men walked over to your truck, hopped in and said, "Looks like he got it out himself officer, have a good night" and then drove away leaving you with their pot filled van.
  8. oxendale

    oxendale Member

    Funny part is that I pulled in to talk to the guy and just as I was hooking up the strap they did pull up!!! My exact words were "Oh GREAT" as me and the cops did not used to get along when I was younger and dumber. They guy said no he was already here and went to get a shovel to lend me. He came and said hi to me and watched us hook them up then left before I was in the driver seat. Im thinking he did not want to be around if something did happen.

    I totally agree with everything you have said in this post. I dont think I would ever take money from someone who is obviously not well off and not being a complete idiot in bad weather. But obviously if they are not using their brain and have money then why not charge them. It aint cheap to own and operate a truck, especially with all the equipment you have invested in. I only wish I could have all that on my truck!

    All in all no matter what if they offer me money Im probably going to take it. I mean they put themselves in the situation so they can pay to get out. And for the guy I pulled out, I mean who tries to turn around in the middle of a yard in a foot of snow while driving a minivan. He needed to get charged so he may learn a lesson and not do it again, Oh ya and it was at about 11:45 p.m. with girls loaded in it so I think the payment was well justified!
  9. ahmitchell1

    ahmitchell1 Rockstar 4 Years ROTM Winner 1000 Posts

    kinda funny me n my family just watched a Home video from that storm. It was pretty big for GA

    but about the topic. Weather it's bad weather, a mud hole or broke down. I will stop for just about anyone who seems to not be a threat. I guess growing up in a small town gave me the help your neighbor attitude. I'm also racking up karma points lol

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    kinda funny me n my family just watched a Home video from that storm. It was pretty big for GA

    but about the topic. Weather it's bad weather, a mud hole or broke down. I will stop for just about anyone who seems to not be a threat. I guess growing up in a small town gave me the help your neighbor attitude. I'm also racking up karma points lol
  10. Enkeiavalanche

    Enkeiavalanche Rockstar 4 Years ROTM Winner 5000 Posts

    Well my Bosses Son with the Range Rover I made him buy me lunch after I got him Unstuck..If someone offers me money for pulling them out then by all means take it... If not A thank you will be fine....

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