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Just got my first boat!

Discussion in 'Sports & Outdoors' started by AnimalYates, May 20, 2013.

  1. AnimalYates

    AnimalYates New Member

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    Picked up a 17ft 1986 Wellcraft open bow with a 170 merccruiser. I'm new to boats and this is my first one ever. I'm looking forward to spending a nice summer out on the lake catching some bass and some rays. Here she is all hooked up to my truck tonight, she sure is in good shape for a 27 year old boat!

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  2. tbplus10

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    Dont get me wrong I enjoy my boat, but say good bye to any extra cash you thought you had.
    Between operating cost's, repairs, parts, and fuel these suckers eat money quick.
    Good lookin Wellcraft bowrider she should be lots of fun this summer.
    Congrats.
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  3. JimmyA

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    Nice boat! I concur with previous post. Enjoy it, you'll have fun and catch some good rays.
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  4. SurrealOne

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    x3 on what [MENTION=14295]tbplus10[/MENTION] wrote. It's especially bad when you take out your buds, GF, etc. and no one ponies for fuel ... or when they do they fail to consider fuel costs of towing the sucker, too. I thought boating was spendy when fuel was $1.18/gallon (because boats drink fuel) -- and I think it's retardedly expensive at $3.25/gal.

    Show me a fuel-efficient boat and I'll show you something with a sail. :)
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  5. Pikey

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    lol! I would say that my boat is pretty fuel efficient. But, that could also be very dependent on my usage. I have a 1985 four winns 19.5' with a cuddy cabin. It has a mercruiser 130 (4 cylinder GM motor) I can pull tubes and skiers for three 6 hour days on one 21 gallon tank. That only happens once a year. Most the time we put it in, cruise around the lake for 5-10 minutes and then find a nice spot to anchor. We will fish and swim in that spot all day. So, I usually only have to fill the boat up 2-3 times per year, one of them being after having people out to tube and ski. Now, if I take it out to one of the Great Lakes then it becomes a different story. Being able to leave it wide open for 30-40 minutes straight eats gas pretty quickly.

    Congrats @AnimalYates on the new boat. Does it have the Alpha 1 gen 1 out drive? Let me know if you have any issues. (I also think that I have the Mercruiser Alpha1 manual in pdf form that I can email you, it covers the MR, R, Alpha1, and Alpha1 SS models) I have been inside of one of them too many times. I completely rebuilt mine a year ago. If you don't know when the last time the water impeller inside the lower unit was replaced then I suggest you do that right away. They get brittle and rot out. Then pieces can break off and plug water jackets. It is around a $35 kit. They suggest that you replace it every year.
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  6. Enkeiavalanche

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    Where do you guys get your Gas? My father and I sold our 23ft Crownline that we had on the Hudson for many years Our 3rd boat. dockage fees $8000 a season, Gas about $5.00-$5.50 per gal on the Hudson and this is in the upper parts about 20 miles north of NYC..
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  7. SurrealOne

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    Heh, @Pikey, it's definitely your usage. In my youth (and long before my back injury) I'd ski the entirety of an 18mi lake in western PA, myself ... in addition to tubing and slalom ski course runs. That was just me, and there were usually a total of 4 of us like that, on board. Put another way, the boat would basically run from dawn until dusk, stopping only for fuel, food, beverages, or for people to do what nature requires of them after consuming food/beverages. It'd be common to fill up AT LEAST once a day, and the boat was only a 1974 MFG "Gypsy" 16 foot open bow (my grandfather's) with GM's 4cyl, 120ish HP Iron Duke under the bonnet.

    We rebuilt the lower unit, once, due to a water pump failure. Not fun. I've never liked sterndrive (i.e. I/O propulsion) boats, since then ... but I'm biased. Pikey's spot on that maintaining it now before you plop it in the water is a solid idea.

    @AnimalYates, I DO hope you enjoy the heck out of your new toy, whether spendy or not. Boating is a blast and there's just something about being on the water that makes the expense 'worth it'.
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  8. tbplus10

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    Depending on which prop Im running I have been able to get a full day of water play with 1 tank of fuel.
    Depending on lake conditions, amount of persons on the boat, and whether Im mostly cruizing or pulling ski's/tubes, I switch between three props a 14 1/4 x 19, 14 1/4 x 21, or a 14 1/4 x 24, only a few degrees change between each prop but it makes huge differences in performance and fuel use.
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  9. Curky

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    Congrats. It is your money and you can do what you want. Hope you enjoy it.
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  10. ChromeSilver02

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    B.O.A.T.= Break Out Another Thousand

    Atleast that is what my friends say, cause I know nothing about boats lol. I do know it makes a summer day a lot better being out on the water. But seriously congrats, I am guessing that you have a lake near you to spend those weekends?
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  11. McClintoc

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    Nice boat! Brings back memories...

    Growing up, my parents had a 20' Wellcraft that looked just like yours except for everything on yours that is red was blue on ours.
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  12. tbplus10

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    Your buying fuel at the dock on the water, which always cost's more.
    The only time I ever fuel up on the water is if I absolutely have to to get back to the launch ramp or if Im on a lake that has a DOD rec site since their required to regulate fuel prices to the lowest available street price, and since docks/marinas are on lakes and not streets fuel prices are normally the lowest on the lake, but only available to DOD employee's and retiree's.
    When I had my old boat docked I always used 2 Dockmate portable 20 gl fuel tanks to refuel the boat. At $1.50 to $2.00 a gl cheaper with a 40 gl fuel tank its a huge savings.
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    Congrats Animal, great looking boat. :great: I have been thinking about getting one but just hadn't found one that I like and can afford. Great find man.
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  14. AnimalYates

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    Thanks everyone. Like I said, I'm so green to the boating world it's not even funny. But as Surreal said, there is just something about being out on the water. I am inbetween two fairly nice lakes.. both probaby 30-45 minutes away. (Ceaser's Creek and Brookeville lake for any of you Ohioan's out there.)

    I have been way too busy with work this week to get anything done with the boat though. It needs a good detail, and could probably use a tune up in a few spots. I need to get a cover for it, and get the trailer weighed. I am hoping you guys are right and I enjoy it as much as I think I will. And if I don't there is always craigslist. (Where I bought it to begin with lol). Could put it up for trade for a badass K20 or something. Haha. Once again thanks guys.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention my boat is actually 19", not 17". And I had never really backed a trailer this long before. I will definitely have to get some maneuverability practice in before making an ass of myself at the ramp haha.
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    Congrats!!! I've never owned one but know plenty who do. We always have a great time when were out and I am sure you will too! Very nice.
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  16. SurrealOne

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    @Enkeiavalanche (and @AnimalYates, since you're a self-proclaimed boating newb), tbplus10 is spot-on ... don't buy fuel on the lake unless you must, as you're usually a captive audience (due to low or no competition among fuel vendors on the lake) ... and you get gouged. Where tbplus10 used 20gallon tanks, I simply stuck to 5 gallon cans (I own five 5gal and two 2.5gal), as they're a bit easier for me to handle/move... and I can also use them for other things and refill only what's empty.

    With the hard cap on your Avalanche there'd be no issue stashing gas cans in the truck for refils while out for a day of lake fun. Crownlines are nice boats, by the way. (Dad had one for a while.)
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  17. McClintoc

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    Shouldn't take too much practice. Longer trailers are much easier back than short ones.
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  18. estrom

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    prayers sent....

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    Ok - seriously...we've had boats for 20+ years and have loved it. They are a great family activity if you have kids. We're more of the ski, tube, etc... type, little to no fishing. But no matter the type of boat, there's a few "musts":

    1. Get a cover for it NOW if it's going to live outside. Any type of weather will hurt it somehow.
    2. Find a RECOMMENDED, good mechanic. I do a lot of the maintenance myself, but it's good to have someone you can trust for the bigger stuff or stuff you can't or don't want to do yourself.
    3. Practice backing the trailer BEFORE you head to the boat ramp. Watching a boat ramp can make for some priceless entertainment. Don't BE the entertainment.
    4. Most important (if you're married or have a significant other), YOU should NOT be the one to teach her how to back the trailer, and it should especially NOT be done on the boat ramp!! (See #3 above!)

    Have fun!
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  19. Enkeiavalanche

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    Thanks but no lake it was on the Hudson river and we did not have a trailer for it.. It was fun But we sold it a few years ago...
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  20. Sierraowner5.3

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    missed this thread somehow. grats dude!

    backing isnt that hard, just remember right is left, and left is right. :rules:

    Alex
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