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  1. Frenchie

    Frenchie New Member

    Hello to all,
    Okay, I know, another French ......
    Today, this subject does not matter, so it is quite essential to know!
    And as I am an avid of 18/19th centuries, I wanted to share it with everyone.
    So I started ..........................
    [FONT=&amp]A little of history:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&amp]New France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] is the name that [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] gave to its colonies in [/FONT][FONT=&amp]North America[/FONT][FONT=&amp]. The history of [/FONT][FONT=&amp]New France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] began with the first attempts at French colonization following the first trip of Jacques Cartier in 1534.
    [FONT=&amp]_From 1604 to 1760, the [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Kingdom[/FONT][FONT=&amp] of [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] gradually expanded its authority over lands inhabited and sometimes settled by Native American populations. Samuel de Champlain founded the town of [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Quebec[/FONT][FONT=&amp] on [/FONT][FONT=&amp]July 3, 1608[/FONT][FONT=&amp]. It is one of the first permanent European settlements in North American soil and it was the capital of [/FONT][FONT=&amp]New France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] for over a century and a half.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]
    This vast territory spanned three distinct regions: [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Acadia[/FONT][FONT=&amp], in what is now Atlantic Canada and part of North Eastern United States, [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Canada[/FONT][FONT=&amp], then comprising only St. Lawrence valley, and [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Louisiana[/FONT][FONT=&amp], which included the Illinois Country, comprising the [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Mississippi[/FONT][FONT=&amp] and [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Ohio river[/FONT][FONT=&amp] valleys down to the [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Gulf of Mexico[/FONT][FONT=&amp]. [/FONT][FONT=&amp]New France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] had a low population growth compared to the British American colonies adjacent to its eastern borders. Around 1730, the gap was considerable: the British colonies had about 250,000 people of European origin while there were only 30,000 people in [/FONT][FONT=&amp]New France[/FONT][FONT=&amp].[/FONT][FONT=&amp]
    This, in addition to its geographical position preventing the expansion of the British colonies, triggered confrontations. Those became more frequent until the fall of [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Quebec[/FONT][FONT=&amp] on [/FONT][FONT=&amp]September 13, 1759[/FONT][FONT=&amp]. A year after its capital was captured, New [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] fell and was dismantled. Parts were ceded to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Great Britain[/FONT][FONT=&amp] while the rest went to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Spain[/FONT][FONT=&amp].[/FONT][FONT=&amp]
    [/FONT][FONT=&amp]New France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] ceased to exist in 1763 when [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] ceded [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Canada[/FONT][FONT=&amp] and its dependencies to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Great Britain[/FONT][FONT=&amp] by signing the Treaty of Paris. Then in 1800, Napoleon Bonaparte returned the vast [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Louisiana[/FONT][FONT=&amp] region to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] from [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Spain[/FONT][FONT=&amp] under the Treaty of San Ildefonso. However, the treaty was kept secret, and [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Louisiana[/FONT][FONT=&amp] remained under Spanish control until a transfer of power to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] on [/FONT][FONT=&amp]November 30, 1803[/FONT][FONT=&amp], just three weeks before the cession to the [/FONT][FONT=&amp]United States[/FONT][FONT=&amp] under the [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Louisiana Purchase[/FONT][FONT=&amp]. Today, all that remains to [/FONT][FONT=&amp]France[/FONT][FONT=&amp] of this once vast wilderness empire are the little islands of Saint-Pierre et [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Miquelon[/FONT][FONT=&amp], located off [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Newfoundland[/FONT][FONT=&amp], [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Canada[/FONT][FONT=&amp].[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

    Then a few years after....................

    [FONT=&amp]The French in the American Civil War: the example of the French brigade of New Orleans (April 24 / May 2, 1862)[/FONT]
    _The French interest in the distant American Civil War was confined there in this position observers curious? They had chosen their camp? Took it that this war spreads and their eyes for the French finally interested in the "American Civil War" they called "Civil War"?
    _A History of French participation in the American Civil War remains to be written. For us after a reminder of political and diplomatic context, we limit our ambition to present here the example of French residents of New Orleans, volunteers' French Brigade "during the siege and capture of the city by Northerners. Like them thousands of other French citizens have chosen to defend their homeland and despite the adoption of political and diplomatic imbroglio of time. On this occasion we can find a few tracks genealogical investigations for readers who wish to investigate whether their ancestors were involved in one way or another to the Civil War. We also recommend this for the internet consultation numbers at the time of the local newspaper in French "L'Abeille in New Orleans"
    Militias European and French Brigade

    French Brigade
    _Early mobilization in New Orleans there are many among the French volunteers who flocked to recruiting offices. Furthermore any more disinterested consideration, it is clear that the blockade of southern ports including New Orleans by the Yankee fleet provoked an economic crisis that ruined farmers can no longer ship their goods, including their cotton to Europe . In addition, the revolt in Santo Domingo in 1791, which saw a half million slaves revolted kill 2000 white two weeks left in the stories of those who had fled, taking refuge in New Orleans traces in Louisiana minds and strengthened the will of plantation owners to defend themselves against any possible uprising caused by the arrival of the Yankees.
    _Given the growing enthusiasm of his countrymen for Federated, Count Eugène Méjean, consul of France in New Orleans will have to remind them of their duty of neutrality. In contrast to the state governor, Thomas Moore, intended to mobilize French residents. To reconcile obligations and duties of neutrality with regard to Louisiana, it was agreed that French citizens are not obliged to armed struggle and only carry a service policing to ensure the safety of persons and property.
    _Thus were formed several militia clearly showed their sympathies for the Confederacy, it was estimated that more than 3,000 men total number of French citizens resident who served in the militia of the city.
    _All these men, equipped at the expense of significant and committed themselves, were nicknamed "red legs" because they wore uniforms directly inspired by the holding of the French infantryman of the day: blue cap, blue jacket and red trousers horizon .
    _Regarding the 54,000 French citizens registered in 1860, we would have identified approximately 26,000 fighters, including 70% fought with the South. The data are very imprecise it is unclear whether or not these figures include the 3000 French citizens of New Orleans who served in the militia.

    Well, I stop here, because I see that sleep, already long

    Hi ...........

    Best regards.

  2. Frenchie

    Frenchie New Member

    French cooperation in the Confederate war effort, but too late.

    The CSS Stonewall was a 1,390-ton ironclad built in Bordeaux, France, for the Confederate Navy in 1864. After she crossed the Atlantic, reaching Havana, Cuba, it was already May, 1865, and the Civil War had ended. Spanish Authorities took possession, soon handing it over to the U.S. government.

    Le CSS Stonewall était un cuirassé 1390 tonnes construit en 1864, à Bordeaux en France, pour la Marine Confédérée. Après qu'il ait traversé l'Atlantique pour atteindre la Havane, à Cuba, il était déjà mai 1865, et la Guerre Civile avait pris fin. Les autorités espagnoles en ont pris possession, dès sa remise au gouvernement américain.


    French weapons.

    12-pounder Napoleon Model 1857.

    French weapons in the American Civil War had a key role in the conflict and encompassed most of the sectors of weaponry of the American Civil War (1861–1865), from artillery to firearms, submarines and ironclad warships. The effect of French weapons was especially significant in field artillery and infantry. These weapons were either American productions based on French designs, or sometimes directly imported from France.

    The "canon obusier de 12", introduced in the French Army in 1853, an early type of "canon obusier", or gun howitzer developed during the reign of Napoleon III, was the primary cannon used in the American Civil War, under the name of "12-pounder Napoleon Model 1857" Over 600 such Napoleons were manufactured by the South.


    Confederate Napoleons were produced in at least six variations, most of which had straight muzzles, but at least eight cataloged survivors of 133 identified have muzzle swells. Additionally, four iron Confederate Napoleons produced by Tredegar Iron Works in Richmond, Virginia have been identified, of an estimated 125 cast.

    Minié Riffle and Ball

    Claude-Etienne Minié (February 13, 1804; Paris - December 14, 1879; Paris) was a French Army officer famous for solving the problem of designing a reliable muzzle-loading rifle by inventing the Minié ball in 1847, and the Minié rifle in 1849. He succeeded the pioneering work of Henri-Gustave Delvigne and Louis-Étienne de Thouvenin.

    The Minié rifle was an important rifle in the 19th century, developed in 1849 following the invention of the Minié ball in 1847 by the French Army captains Claude-Étienne Minié of the Chasseurs d'Orléans and Henri-Gustave Delvigne. The rifle was designed to allow rapid muzzle loading of rifles, an innovation that brought about the widespread use of the rifle as a mass battlefield weapon.

    Springfield Model 1861 Minié rifle, the most widely used rifle during the American Civil War.

    The precursor to the Minié ball was created in 1848 by the French Army captains Montgomery and Henri-Gustave Delvigne. Their design was made to allow rapid muzzle loading of rifles, an innovation that brought about the widespread use of the rifle as a mass battlefield weapon.

    The Minié ball, or Minie ball, is a type of muzzle-loading spin-stabilizing rifle bullet named after its co-developer, Claude-Étienne Minié, inventor of the Minié rifle. It came to prominence in the Crimean War and American Civil War.


    The Minié ball was a conical-cylindrical soft lead bullet, slightly smaller than the intended firearm barrel's bore, with (originally) four exterior grease-filled grooves and a conical hollow in its base. The bullet was designed by Minié with a small iron plug and a lead skirting. Its intended purpose was to expand under the pressure and obturate the barrel and increase muzzle velocity.
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2013
  3. barefoot greg

    barefoot greg Rockstar 100 Posts

    i live in right on the saint lawerence river in Morristown, NY.

    3 miles from my home is a state park named after Jacques Cartier.

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