Stabilitrak

Discussion in 'Lifted & Offroad Suspension' started by slogan412, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. slogan412

    slogan412 New Member

    I Want to lift my truck but it has the Stabilitrak on it, is there any concerns that I have to look for when ordering a lift for it. Was looking at the rancho 4" kit or a zone offroad 4.5
  2. djthumper

    djthumper New Member

    Stabilitrak isn't something to worry too much about with a lift. You will want to disable it when you are in 4-hi it is automatically disabled when you are in 4-low.
  3. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    It probably has a fuse. You could likely permanently disable it by removing the fuse so that you need not remember to do so in 4-Hi. :)
  4. tbplus10

    tbplus10 Super Moderator

    Newer trucks have a disable button on the dash so it's as easy as reaching over and pushing the button to disable, no need to pull the fuse and it'll still be active in 2wd.
  5. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    Out of curiosity, does that switch allow one to turn off stabilitrak and leave it off indefinitely? I ask because I presumed it was like most modern vehicular traction control systems which require drivers to turn them off each time the vehicle has been started. This is usually for legal/liability reasons. I'd be surprised if the switch of which you speak allows stabilitrak to be indefinitely disabled, but if (and only if) it does then you're right that there'd be no need to yank the fuse to avoid remembering to disable stabilitrak in 4-Hi.

    Please advise.

    Surreal
  6. tbplus10

    tbplus10 Super Moderator

    Yea every time you start the vehicle you have to turn Stabilitrac off again.
    But since the switch is a two wire switch (I pulled the panel on mine and checked out the switch and connections the other day) I'm willing to bet an enterprising mechanic could set it up so that the system didnt power upo on start but had to be turned on by the switch.
    But theres no real reason to turn Stabilitrac off in 2wd so just leaving it as is probably works best.
  7. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    Thanks, I'm glad you clarified that. This means that fuse removal might be appropriate for someone who wants to disable the system once and not have to bother remembering to disable it when switching into 4-Hi.

    Some people don't like having to remember to turn things off under certain circumstances -- for fear they might forget. I'm not like that, but my dad, for example, has become that way in his older age. This kind of audience ... which for whatever reason wants to disable it once and not have to bother with it, again, because they feel that's what's best for themselves and their needs ... is the group my fuse suggestion was aimed at.

    Now the question is ... is there a fuse for it? I don't have stabilitrak so I can't say, but I'd expect there to be one. It'd be good to know if there is one and, if so, whether it's in-cab or under hood.

    Surreal
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2012
  8. djthumper

    djthumper New Member

    I am sure there is a way to disable it. But it isn't something you want disabled on the road since if you are in an accident and it is found to be disabled your insurance company is not required to pay out.
  9. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    Now there's an interesting note that begs the question of why there's a button to disable it in the cab, at all? People should likely check with their insurance carriers to be sure...
  10. tbplus10

    tbplus10 Super Moderator

    But if the system works correctly and was only turned off by the switch they could never prove if it was on or off at the time of an accident since it cycles with the engine.
    Not sure why your insurance would tell you they wont payout if your involved in an accident if found to be not using the stabilitrac, it isnt a law requiring use and under Federal insurance codes it's illegal to deny insurance claims over use of an optional vehicle safety device, which since it has an on/off switch Stabilitrac is considered optional.
  11. djthumper

    djthumper New Member

    Last edited: Jan 2, 2012
  12. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Former Member

    I'm sure whether Stabilitrak was on/off is probably logged somewhere! Thanks for adding the Federal insurance codes; I thought that was the case but I'm no insurance expert...


    From that article: "The NHTSA requires all passenger vehicles to be equipped with ESC by 2012..."

    This means on all vehicles prior to those produced in/for 2012 ... it's optional. It's probably required on any vehicle whose shows it it as a 2012 or later...

    Surreal
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2012
  13. djthumper

    djthumper New Member

    It seems that since it has been a progression and it was not installed as optional equipment that it was required as they progressed. My TB has it on there and it is an 06 so GM has been building it up for years. Like I said I am sure there is a way to put a switch inline to keep it off until you want it on. I can see where that would be real handy off road when you are out in the sticks say on a hunting trip or something.

    I have actually had more problems with the ABS out on the trails coming down some of the mountain trails, slipping on rocks and what not.
  14. tbplus10

    tbplus10 Super Moderator

    "Stabilitrac being on a vehicle is a requirement for 2012 model year and later, but with the addition of a simple override or shutoff switch use is considered optional. And as such since use of the system is optional an Ins. Co. can not require use of such devices or deny insurance claims for non-use unless there is a specific rider attached to the Insurance policy which the insured would be required to sign off on specifically and individually, said rider can only be placed on a policy if there is reasonable cause that could preclude the non-use of traction aiding devices would cause an accident or injury resulting in an insurance claim.

    I got this from a Lawyer friend of mine that specializes in vehicle accident claim suits against Insurance Companies, it seems the issue around traction devices has been a legal thorn in the side of Insurance companies for some time, they've been attempting to opt out or share expenses with manufacturers for accidents if they can prove a Traction device was faulty or not in use at the time of an accident. So far all they've been able to do was create secondary defendants of the manufacturers when ever theirs been sufficient proof devices were faulty but not clear themselves of financial responsibility.
  15. djthumper

    djthumper New Member

    Now that is some nice information to know.

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