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Street Biker Gang Attacks Family in Range Rover

Discussion in 'The Coffee Shop ~ Chit Chat' started by reggiecab2000, Oct 2, 2013.

  1. reggiecab2000

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  2. ChevyFan

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    I would have had the mindset to know that a moving range Rover is a total overmatch for a biker and I would have kept running then down until police arrived. Can't let yourself very boxed in either.
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    Wow! First time I have seen that video; crazy. I would have done my best to get to a police station or other area that has a heavy law enforcement presence.
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    A ssomeone who lives around this area I will tell you.. First off look at the video first and see the 4 wheeler :gasp: Not street legal in NYC.. These guys do this all the time They get in front of drivers Slow down everyone to do there BS Stunts Wheelies and other Crap!! The do it on the GSP, Westside Hwy and all over NY.. So when This group wanted to have fun this time they tried to stop a 5000Lbs Truck with a family inside.. What would you do?

    Me Ran over as many as I could and NOT Look back.. If they tried to drive up next to me.. CUT the A Holes OFF... They GET what they deserve.... There should NOT be any blame on the Driver of the Range Rover..
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  5. PantheraUncia

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    Well the only thing you can do if they box you in and stop you is get on your phone and call 911. But at the same time calling 911 is not going to stop them from acting like children and potentially hurting you or your family by the time the cops can even reach you in that case.

    The driver did what he had to do and as the news stands this morning the driver was not charged and the bikers are at fault. I completely agree with how the driver of the land rover handled the situation considering the video that we are watching.

    The biker(s) clearly and with intent, created a situation that they should not have. Video works both ways. That is why I have multiple video camera's mounted on the truck now.

    And I have been interested in getting a bike and I am not against bikers, but that does not change the fact that when a group of bikers get together, the "MOB" mentality sets in and they think they are above the law and can do anything they want.
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  6. Conlan Rose

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    If it was me and my vehicle I wouldn't slow down and I would have the police on the phone as I continued to drive. If one tried to slow me down by stopping in front of me he'd be very unhappy when my chrome bumper smashes his bike. I rather have to buff rubber and blood off my truck then have any member of my family get hurt.
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  7. Pikey

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    I believe that the driver of the SUV was charged with reckless driving. If I were in that situation I probably would have done almost the same thing. I may have backed up first, I don't know what was behind him and I was not there so I really can't blame the guy for what he did. I could tell you one thing, they would have never gotten next to my truck a second time! Like said above, I would be on the phone with police and swerving all over. I would have never stopped in that traffic like when the driver got stuck and they pulled him out and beat him. I would have thrown it in reverse, then forward, then reverse. No way in hell would they have a second chance at attempting to injury me, my wife or my 3 kids.

    I read a story about one of the guys that got run over. He is now paralyzed. They linked to a facebook page for the guy. You should see the overwhelming outpouring of people posting on the page that the guy deserved it. I mean people are telling this guys family off! He was hanging out with thugs and was not eligible for a drivers license again until 2017! While it stinks that they guys life is now destroyed, I think that I would have reacted the same way as the SUV driver. But, my yukon xl has much less ground clearance than that range rover so I probably would have ended up dragging a bike or person with me.
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  8. dsfloyd

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    So I dont think the news clip showed the whole video. They were pulled off you tube but still on liveleak. Its common for these groups to do damage to vehicles they are blocking as well as getting into little fender benders and then demanding money.

    In the longer video it shows the SUV got on the Freeway but got stuck in the crowd. Then you see in one of the videos a biker rides up along side, yells at the driver, pulls in front, and then brake checks the SUV getting bumped. The SUV stops and then the crowd begins to swarm. They start banging on the SUV and slash the tire. At this point the Driver takes off. Rightfully so as that is a potentially life threatening situation and he had his family in the car. The chase goes on for about six miles before he pulls off, which was his mistake because he got stuck in city traffic. Once he got stuck in traffic, he should have put it in reverse and gunned it. They then pull him out of the car and beat and slash him. The cops already had over 200 calls on the bikers that day as well as the SUV. Supposedly he pulled off because of the flat tires but until the cops show the safest place for him was his SUV and highway. Goes to show if you have a big enough group the cops wont do much.
    [MENTION=51590]Pikey[/MENTION], it wasnt him charged with reckless driving, it was the guy that brake checked him. He also got charged with child endangerment and something else (the motorcycle guy not the SUV driver) Then yesterday the DA said they werent pressing charges yet without more investigating.

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    I believe this is the right link to more video. I cant go to liveleak at work but this was a link posted in another forum about it that I'm on

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664
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  9. Conlan Rose

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    I just read an article about it and really both sides acted wrong, the SUV driver had merged on the highway dangerously and the original biker was trying to tell the man to calm down and then both sides took each others actions wrong and it just kept getting worse. The driver shouldn't of run over the biker and the bikers should not of beat him or damaged the car that escalated the situation. When I first heard of it I though it was just a random act of violence, but its really just every one not thinking before acting.
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  10. Pikey

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    In my opinion the bikers were looking for trouble. If you watch any of the videos that are posted they have a mentality of being above the law. Running red lights, cutting people off, just being outright menaces to society. If anyone crossed their path and did something that they did not like they were going to take care of that person. I have seen groups like this, heck I unfortunately have been in a group like this. (as an observer of course, I am not a Douche!)
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    I have to disagree only because of the number of videos I have seen on this group (on that day and others) and it shows a pattern of behavior. After the mob first assembled on the vehicle with a known tactic of brake checking to stop someone, the SUV driver was in fear for his safety and had every right to get the hell out of their. the videos that are posted on liveleak show no such dangerous driving by the SUV driver leading up to the initial incident.
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  12. McClintoc

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    Screw motorcycle riders, I don't care who you are. Crap like what is seen in the video is unacceptable. Riders are always all like,"Whaaa, watch out for us!" "Share the road with us!!" bla bla bla, cry some more. And they go and do stupid stuff like gang up on people, ride down the shoulder in stop-and-go traffic (illegal) and park in the striped areas next to handicapped parking (also illegal). Riders are always asking for other motorists to repsect them and the riders don't follow the rules of the road or even common decency. I don't put up with hypocracy. Sorry, if you ask me, I couldn't care less about motorcylce riders. If something like what is seen in the video were to happen to me, every one of those fools would get shot.
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    These arent your typical bike riders. Most of the bikes had no plates, ATVs etc. Like I said these gangs go around disrupting traffic and damaging vehicles often.

    Someone posted one of the original videos on youtube again as they were all pulled down shortly after incident (hmm I wonder why). No evidence of the Rover doing anything dangerous to start it. If he did why did the guy with the main video edit it out as well as the beating they put on the guy at the end. The guy in the land rover stopped after he bumped the guy (who did it on purpose) and took off after they started hitting his car and slashing tires. They were celebrating their anniversary and he had his wife and 2 year old daughter in the car. No where does it show he was being reckless to start the incident. The driver of the SUV has every right to protect his family from a bunch of thugs. Everything points to this gang doing what they commonly do.

    Embedding for video is disabled but link works.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukdkgLYYbw&feature

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  14. Pikey

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    Occasionally we get some groups like this down near the city. You will be driving down the freeway at 70mph with a car next to you and 5-6 A$$Hats on a motorcycles come screaming in between you and the car next to you, nearly decapitating themselves with my side mirror. The result is usually one of two things, first, you see them a mile down the road laying on the ground after they smeared their rear ends across the pavement for 1/2 a mile after a wreck or second, the cops have them pulled over two miles down the road. We have some real biker gangs in the area also. The Highway men, outlaws, and renegades are 1%er biker gangs in the area. you don't want to mess with them, but they are also respectful. They actually have been known to stop violent acts at public gatherings. if they were around for this they probably would have stepped in. Every year they call all of the "presidents" of so called mc clubs like this to a meeting. Then they proceed to beat the hell out of them and destroy their bikes.you would figure that these guys would catch on, or maybe they have, but you don't tell these guys "no"
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    Being a driver in the NJ/NY area every night I do about 65-70 in my Big Truck They race by doing 90+ Without a Care in the world..
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    From that extended video it looks like they broke so many laws its not even funny, last time I checked "dirt bikes" and 4 wheelers were not legal on highways. They should all be given 90 days in jail.
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    yep and the cops just turn a blind eye to it because there are so many of them. Once again these arent your typical motorcyclists, they are nothing but thugs and a few got what they deserved.
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  18. McClintoc

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    Yup, and that's the biggest problem right there: most major cities have "no chase" protocol for motorcylces (particularly crotch rockets) as they are much faster/agile than cop cars so it's actually more dangerous to the public for cops to try chase them down.
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    I feel lucky my town has procedures for ATVs, snowmobiles and dirt bikes. We have a major state park and a couple large local parks that teens use ATVs and dirt bikes illegally and the police department has been given ATVs, side-by-sides and such to patrol trails and what not during the summer so kids don't use them. Also we also have motorcycle police in our city and regular cops who will gladly use their Crown Vick to smash anything your riding or driving.
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    McClintock: This isnt your normal law abiding rider, this is a gang of thugs and idiots that was looking for a problem.
    As a motorcycle rider I can tell you riders with maturity and common sense avoid things like this, motorcycle vs vehicle always results in bad news for the rider. On the other side theres a lot of vehicle drivers that are just plain stupid, as a rider you have to watch for them, both sides need to respect others on the road period.
    This guy owns a Range Rover but doesnt have a cell phone capable of dialing 911?
    Over the last year activities of this type have become popular among SportBike riders, weve had a few similar incidents in Dallas and at least 1 incident resulting in a riders death, no pitty here for a rider that intentionally puts themself in a dangerous situation. Hopefully this is a fad that dies out quickly.
    My personnal recommendation is if you see it happening record as many plate numbers as you can, eithet by pen and paper or cell phone camera and make sure your safe.
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