Hello, Zigger: I pay people like you to do all my installs. I am not a backyarder. Anyone as arrogant as you goes to the bottom of the employment list as far as I am concerned. You don't even know the meaning of the word "tactful". I can only imagine what you tell your potential customers who end up hiring someone else. Sheesh. We have good installers up here that do what you do, but without the arrogant attitude. Apparently you think you are the center of the universe. Obviously you live in a different solar system. Speakers first. Period. Head unit can come second. There are actually some OEM units that put out half way decent sound for many consumers. You buy that head unit and you have OEM speakers, it still sounds bad. Sorry if you disagree, but without big paying customers like me, you would be washing dishes for a living. If the consumer is on a budget, this is their first best purchase in an upgrade. He isn't going to a national SPL competition, he wants to drive it to work. I don't do competition installs. That is for the cars dedicated to sound competitions. As in the whole vehicle is full of speakers and amplifiers. If that is what you do, fabulous. But let's be real and practical here, not esoteric.