What's your opinion about body lifts?

Discussion in 'Lifted & Offroad Suspension' started by 2011laserblue, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator Staff Member 5+ Years ROTM Winner 5000 Posts

    Mine was a performance accessories kit
  2. aloxdaddy99

    aloxdaddy99 Epic Member 5+ Years 1000 Posts

    In my opinion save up your lunch money and "do it right" by upgrading the suspension lift. As in Trplxl2's case it has a place. But I think they cheapen the look of the truck. I have also seen body bolts broken while the truck was being used off road due to the increased stress on the bolts. Your truck looks good as it is which is another reason why I would wait and do it right.
  3. Pikey

    Pikey Moderator Staff Member 5+ Years ROTM Winner 5000 Posts

    I know that many people do not like the look of a body lift. I think that if it is done correctly then they look fine. As far as broken body bolts go, I took my truck offroad every weekend for years and beat the crap out of the truck, I never broke a bolt. I had some major flexing going on at times also. I installed body lifts on a friends f-250 and a jeep. I have seen the jeep rock crawl and it never broke a bolt. I also watched the f250 crawl over some berms, the body flexed so much that the tailgate creased on an angle from one upper corner to the opposite lower corner and the grill cracked. After he drove out of the berm area the tailgate popped and the dent disappeared. He did not break a bolt either. I have been to multiple offroad parks with probably half of the trucks there at a given time having a body lift. I have never seen a bolt break. I suspect that the broken bolt was not installed or torqued properly. Even with an increased bolt length included in the kit, it still must be rated at the same tensile strength and shear rating as the stock bolt. While I am not saying that it does not happen I am saying that I find it extremely rare and if it does happen a body bolt on a non lifted truck probably would have broken also.
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2013
  4. 2011laserblue

    2011laserblue Rockstar 3 Years ROTM Winner 100 Posts

    Hey [MENTION=51590]Pikey[/MENTION] , do you think I could fit 35's under there if I did the 1.5" BL?? I see a lot of guys that run the rancho 4" kit run 35's without any modifications at all???
  5. ChromeSilver02

    ChromeSilver02 Epic Member 5+ Years 500 Posts

    What is your wheels specs?
  6. TRPLXL2

    TRPLXL2 Epic Member 5+ Years 1000 Posts

    I know you said your going to regear to 4.10's, but I think I would consider going a little lower in the gear range. 4.10's, 35's, 5.3 engine, your cruise control will be useless, I had your identical setup in an 05' model and never used the cruise. 3-4 shifting up and down, up and down. If I ever lift my HD I'm doing at least 4.56 maybe 4.88, because I've been down the 4.10 road.
  7. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 Epic Member 5+ Years 1000 Posts

    heres a question, if i were to do a 4' lift on my truck, and only ever have 33s, would a regear to 4.10s be enough?

  8. TRPLXL2

    TRPLXL2 Epic Member 5+ Years 1000 Posts

    The lift has no impact on the shift pattern, it's the larger heavier roatating mass. IMO Alex you would be on the border with 33's and 4.10's. Right now I have 31's and they're 10 ply tires, running 4.10's and I notice no difference and my cruise works fine but I also won't try 33's because I don't want the same issues I had before..

    I wish I could find my pictures I took of the inside of my transmission, when we tore it apart 3rd & 4th bands were worn smooth as glass. The guy at the transmission shop it's very common, but it takes a while for it to happen. Mine went 55,000 miles before it started slipping on the freeway.
  9. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 Epic Member 5+ Years 1000 Posts

    so, if i were to do a lift and tires, a 4.56 regear would also be required, got it.

    almost makes me wanna stay at stock tire size for a good while then. i was toying with going to some 285s when i need tires, now im not so sure.

  10. 2011laserblue

    2011laserblue Rockstar 3 Years ROTM Winner 100 Posts

    I guess that will answer my own question when I measure won't it...ha...good call.
    @TRPLXL2 , I was told that because I have the 6 speed trans 4.10's would be sufficient - open to have you prove that wrong though.

    And @Sierraowner5.3 , I have 4" BDS with 305/55/20 (33)" tire and I only have 3.08's....you can obviously see why I am re-gearing. Do I recommend it how it is...absolutely not, but, it has worked "ok" and actually has more power than I thought it would...the only dumb thing is like TRPLXL2 was saying...cruise control is almost worthless on the highway...always shifting, and sometimes it doesn't even go into 6th.

    If you have 3.42's right now I think you would be okay...I believe a 4.10 would be "ideal" for 33's, and 3.73 would be sufficient.

    I'll quote SurrealOne in another thread of mine:

    "4.10's will be fine on the highway with 33's ... and will convey a slight bias for power. They'll take your truck from a dog to downright punchy off the line. They'll also provide enough of a power bias to allow you to move to 34's or 35's without regearing again ... something you couldn't do with 3.73's, as they're really only adequate for your 33's."

    With your 6spd you'll do better in terms of RPM's and fuel econ (than his 4-speed and 4.56 - 5.3l) ... and you'll have less of a power bias than I do with my 4.56's if you go 4.10's. The 4.10's will give you low end grunt that you'll love ... and also allow you options that the 3.73's won't give you (i.e. upsizing tires later if you want). If I had your truck I'd definitely go with 4.10's."

    - - - Updated - - -

    Just took some measurements....

    From the Ground to the top of the front fender measured to be 42.25"
    In the rear it was 43.5".

    I think the only way I would be able to fit 35's is if I do a 2" leveling kit in the front...but because I am not exactly 2 inches higher in the back I'm not going to do that, I don't want to sit nose high.

    Agree? Disagree? Can I make 35's work with a 1.5" BL??
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2013

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