Why is the US auto industry trending to the boring?

Discussion in 'The Coffee Shop ~ Chit Chat' started by McClintoc, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    Primarily, why are US auto makers not putting manual transmissions in their cars any more? They are out there but hard to find - at least, exactly how I want them.

    I am looking to buy my first car later this year. I have been driving the same pick-up truck for 13 years now. It's paid off and still runs great so I plan to keep it and buy a new, second car. Since I have a truck, I am looking for a "sporty car"; either a 4-door sedan or a 2-door coupe.

    "Sporty" to me is: a manual transmission, rear or all-wheel drive, and at least 350 HP. The car I really want is a Cadillac CTS-V but I can't afford one of those. Certainly not new but probably not even a pre-owned. In terms of affordability, some of the cars I had been looking at are as follows:

    Chevy SS (this one fit my cirteria the best but upon release Chevy said no manual)
    Ford Taurus SHO (another that fit my criteria well but again, no stick)
    Cadillac CTS-Vsport (in terms of wanting a CTS-V, this is a great alternative except the turbo V-6 will only come with an 8-speed auto...what a waste)
    Cadillac ATS coupe (less than 300 HP but I like a lot of its features. This does come with a stick but only on the turbo 4, no the V-6 and I don't really want a 4cyl)

    The ATS coupe and CTS-Vsport aren't out yet but I can wait. This thing is, the cars listed fit my criteria the best except for one factor: they don't come with a freakin' manual! Why are US auto makers not putting manuals in the some of the cars a stick would go with best? There are manuals to be found out there but they are either in under-powered 4-cyl cars or in the really high-end cars I can't afford, such as a CTS-V or a Mustang GT500. Talk about frustrating...
  2. poncho62

    poncho62 Member

    These days, the car companies tend to cater to the most popular options. Years ago, you could go to a dealer and pick and choose all your options,.......Now, you have to pick this package and that package. And, the cars are 10x the price on top of that.....Bring back the old days....lol
  3. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    This is what I was thinking. Car companies will only make/sell what people are buying. Since most Americans are lazy/stupid, people just aren't buying sticks anymore. :( Makes it hard to be an enthusiast these days.
  4. the phantom

    the phantom New Member

    I drove 300 miles to get my girlfriend a manual shift Toyota Rav4 AWD(sorry GM, you have nothing comparable)very hard to find. Price was actually a little cheaper than an automatic with comparable miles and features/color. She loves manual shift and the thing is actually fun to drive.
  5. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    "Fun to drive" is what I am looking for in my new car. I figured a manual would get me that. It's very difficult to find exactly what I want.
  6. jsmith4816

    jsmith4816 New Member

    Why no camaro? I had a 94 and that thing was a blast, even-though it was a v6. Nice 5sp and got pretty good gas mileage.
  7. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    I'd really like a 4-door sedan but a few 2-door coupes are near the top of my list. A Camaro would be nice but they have some serious blind spots that I am not a fan of. That said, the Mustang beats out the Camaro, IMO. But, since I would also rather have a GM than a Ford, I am looking at the Cadillac ATS coupe, but it's not as powerful as I'd like my next car to be. I tell you what, trying to find exactly what I am looking for is quite a daunting task.
  8. Sierraowner5.3

    Sierraowner5.3 New Member

    Camero RS was gonna be my suggestion, if you dont like the blind spots, not sure what to say.

  9. Dana W

    Dana W Member

    Say what you want about Fords, but the most fun, most reliable car I have ever owned is my 2007 Ford Mustang GT. Still eating any comparable stock car on the street with 78,000 miles on the clock. You will ALWAYS be able to get a stickshift in a Mustang. And i could squeeze 28 mpg hwy at 80 mph out of it.
  10. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    [MENTION=52559]Dana W[/MENTION] When I graduated HS and my parents got me the truck I have now, I was contemplating either a pick-up or a Mustang GT. I know the Mustang GT would have been a lot of fun but the truck just made more practical sense. What I am getting at now is, I have driven practical for 13 years and now I want something fun. A Mustang 5.0 is near the top of the list if I decide to go with a manual but I am starting to consider a car with a manumatic transmission.
  11. Dana W

    Dana W Member

    PLEASE NO FLAPPY PADDLES. Let the Euro's have them.

    The 2015 Mustang GT has independent rear suspension, a 6 speed, 420 bhp, 390 ftlb torque. What more could one want?

    I love Chevy's and Camaro's but the new one leaves me cold. It reminds me of a 1950 Mercury hotrod, chopped & lowered. The roof looks way out of proportion, and the car is not really very light on its feet.
  12. GeorgiaZ71

    GeorgiaZ71 New Member

    What about adding a Pontiac G8 to your list? Came in both 2 door and 4 door, you can get with a manual transmission and has a 6.0L V8. BINGO!
  13. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    I wanted a Pontiac G8 GXP when they first came out. They were the exact same car as the CTS-V of the same year just not as luxurious on the inside. The only problem is, since Pontiac is no more, any GXPs available are older than I am wanting. I'd really like a new car but if I can only afford a pre-owned, I'd want it to be only 2 or 3 years old. GXPs at this point are 4 to 5 years old.
  14. GeorgiaZ71

    GeorgiaZ71 New Member

    Well, based off your criteria; A) You may have to look German made. B) Try to find a low mileage, little older CTS-V (09 or 10) or a G8. I know the new Taurus SHO's are in the mid-$40k...once you add the options that make it sweet. But like you said, no manual trans. You are kinda in a pickle, as you can't afford the manual CTS-V new that you want. Options are slim pickens. You could go to BMW M5, but once again...very high priced.

    The days of awesome manual, rear wheel drive muscle/sport sedans are gone. It's almost all automatic, fwd sedans now. Do they make a Dodge Charger R/T or SRT with manual trans?
  15. KyleZ71

    KyleZ71 New Member

    I would suggest a Camaro 1LE, great package to the SS but you're right about the blind spot issue
  16. BurbanMan

    BurbanMan Member

    What about an r/t charger? Auto stick hemi runs pretty damn good. The manual tranny is only offered with the r/t, SRT challenger, but you want a 4dr
  17. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    Nothing from Chrysler. I'd rather not waste my money on junk. :glasses:
  18. BurbanMan

    BurbanMan Member

    oh you must have thought I typed ford lol
  19. McClintoc

    McClintoc Super Moderator

    LOL! I'd willingly spend my money on a Ford if I couldn't find what I wanted from GM. However, you couldn't pay me enough to drive a Chrysler.
  20. BurbanMan

    BurbanMan Member

    im sure someone will hex me for saying this, but GM is my secondary lol

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