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Last night I was comin home from the store and realized my speedometer wasn't working (ins't the first time) so i hit the dash, then realized NONE of the gauges were working..

Gas gauge, almost empty. Water temp, cold. No oil pressure. The alt wasn't charging. No tac and no speedometer.

The Lights work fine, The odometer is still rollin over, cruise control works, Gear selection indicator read out works fine..

Any ideas? I haven't dug too far yet, I didn't have time today (monday) but I have Tuesday off so i was gonna start snooping around.

All the fuses inside checked out, I was going to start by checking all the fuses under the hood then pull the cluster and see if something didn't just come loose on the back.


..... Just wondering if this has happened to someone else and maybe could save me some time.
 

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If you are asking about your 03' mentioned at the bottom of your Sig....Here is some Information ....about the 03' and 04's Model's having a Problem with the Dash Cluster's Gauges,that Stick,Flutter and become inoperative. There is a Special Coverage Adjustment,

Below is the
Coverage Adjustment.....regarding the Dash Cluster Issue/Problem your having with some of your Gauges,

http://www.gmspeedometerrecall.com/
 

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well i pulled the IPC fuse.. found out that controls the lights/odometer too. Then i put it back in, didn't notice anything but when i went to pull out the cluster i noticed the fuel gauge said full and the temp gauge was registering, started it up and everything else worked too... dunno wtf was up. I wish i could have found the real problem.

I guess there's always next time. :fighting0072:
 

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Same Problem

I've got a similiar problem with my '04 silverado. The speedo doesn't go up smoothly, it's kinda jittery. And a couple of times it didn't go up. I've been reading around a lot about it and i've heard that a new cluster is needed and i've heard you can send it away to also i heard you can replace a motor that runs it. Anybody have problems and got them fixed? I just got the truck and need help!!!!!
 

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Just finished installing 7 new stepper motors to my gauge cluster. My speedometer hasn't worked for probably 2 years. The dealer wanted over $500 to fix. I found the stepper motors on e-bay and purchased replacement lights as well. It takes a good soldering iron and a solder sucker tool you can buy at Radio Shack. And if your like me a good pair of glasses! Check out Youtube for some great video's that helped my comfort level. Google "3-minute easy Chevy truck speedometer removal and GM instrument panel removal repair part 1 and 2. Otherwise the same people you can buy part from on E-Bay will repair if you send it to them. Took me about 3 hours to complete but I'm a little cautious.
 

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Thanks! Also saw on there if you send it in you can get your gauges upgraded. Tranney temp, SS, and caddy setups
 

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the dealer covers the cluster for up to 70k miles. it will cause more than just speedo errors. mine also messed with the oil pressure and another gauge.
 

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Here is some Information, Regarding Problem's with the Dash Cluster's,

http://www.gmspeedometerrecall.com/

http://www.gmspeedometerrecall.com/chevy-settlement

G.M. has raised the mileage for coverage from 70,000 miles to 80,000 and or 7 years.


If you were to get a Escalade Dash Cluster,which has the Transmission Temp gauge.The only item that needs to be done, is to have the Mileage programmed into the Escalade Cluster......the 99' and up NBS Siverado's/Sierra's Were-n-Are Already Pre-Wired from the Factory for the Trans Temp Gauge.
 

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Hell yea, I'll be getting one with a trans temp gauge when mine completely takes a dump, thanks. So far I have been able to beat the dash/cluster and make the speedo start working again.. its only a matter of time.

And my truck is just over 91,000 so I'm past all the recall stuff.
 

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Hell yea, I'll be getting one with a trans temp gauge when mine completely takes a dump, thanks. So far I have been able to beat the dash/cluster and make the speedo start working again.. its only a matter of time.

And my truck is just over 91,000 so I'm past all the recall stuff.
I Really like having the Esky Cluster, not only in getting the Transmission Temp Gauge, but it's a Better looking Dash Cluster,


 

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I just got mine done by a guy in texas, cost me 75$ plus shipping and they replace all the motors. Here is the link if anyone wants it.

http://gm-cluster-repair.weebly.com/
What is involved in swapping out the cluster?
I searched around and so far have not found a write up. My truck is past the mileage on the recall...

Bert
 

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What is involved in swapping out the cluster?
I searched around and so far have not found a write up. My truck is past the mileage on the recall...

Bert
Well basically all i had to do was remove my cluster and ship it to them. I have a silverado and first i put the e-brake on, put my gear selector in first, removed the bezel(it is held in by snap in clips) you just pull on it and it pops out. Then the cluster itself is held in by 4 7mm screws, and then there is one electrical plug on the back. Once i mailed it in i got it back in 6 days.
 

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Just a word of warning to those who would be so inclined to send their cluster out for repairs. Use caution when choosing who you deal with. In my line of business as evident in my screen name, I've run into fried circuit boards, static zapped chips, burned out displays and clusters that wind up FUBAR'd from some of the stepper motor changers. Instrument cluster repair properly done involves more than just changing out stepper motors. The use of proper equipment and procedures ensure the quality of repair for your cluster. Or choosing the person to do your cluster repair.

I've run into problems when people have caused themselves grief because of misplaced trust or well-intentioned thrift. In trying to save a buck, wind up spending more to fix the original issue. For example, DONT buy a cheap soldering iron thinking it can't hurt. Buy at least a decent 35-40W GROUNDED iron so that it would at least apply enough heat to the pads for the solder to attach properly to the circuit board and not come apart after so many hot/cold cycles and a few miles of vibration. Mind you, these joints look good under any cursory visual inspection but are a nightmare. A grounded soldering iron will hopefully prevent semi-conductors from getting fried by stray voltages coming off some cheaper irons. Any hotter, higher wattage soldering guns should be used by experienced hands only. Overheating the pads result in burnt, broken, brittle traces of the circuit board that are a PainInTheA$$ to fix. Another, is to make sure to discharge static by touching a grounded metallic object, otherwise you stand the chance of discharging it into the chips on the board. Do this and it's bye-bye cluster. This only to serve as a guide in the hopes that I would not have to tell anyone sending in a cluster that it can't be rebuilt. I hope that you will take note and save yourself a lot of preventable headaches should you chose to do it yourself or send it to a budget-priced stepper motor swapper.

For those so inclined to DIY, I salute you. Please take these recommended precautions. It will save you a lot of grief.
Here's a link to a how-to for beginners learning to solder. http://www.aaroncake.net/electronics/solder.htm
This a from a well respected guru of an RX7 club forum I used to belong to.

There's a reason why professional instrument cluster rebuilders charge a little more for their services. It's not just the equipment cost used to repair or for the calibration of the gauges but also what goes into the to replace backlight bulbs with longer lasting oem type bulbs. Or the quality of the parts used in the repair. It's not that uncommon for me to run accross a so-called rebuilt or repaired cluster that had stepper motors replaced that were of the original defective design (which caused the problem to begin with)only to fail again. Or the fact that in order to repair dim, dead or intermittent odometer/gear selector displays involves a little more than the average stepper motor swapper can handle(Believe me, we get plenty of calls for these).
Or the fact that most reputable rebuilders will, as a standard procedure address the common circuit board issues that cause clusters to flicker, bounce or cause parasitic power drains. I can't account for what stepper swappers do out there but I definitely would be leery of some of cheap-priced jobbers out there.
Don't get burned:grrrrrr:
Just food for thought.
Rant Over.

John 8:32
Then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
 

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Anyone know where I can get the stepper motor? is there more than one that needs to be replaced? I would like to do it myself, but I don't know where to get the parts. I am confident that I could replace it if I could find the part. I would also like to replace the bulbs. Any idea where i can get those?
 

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Anyone know where I can get the stepper motor? is there more than one that needs to be replaced? I would like to do it myself, but I don't know where to get the parts. I am confident that I could replace it if I could find the part. I would also like to replace the bulbs. Any idea where i can get those?
Buying new Stepper Motor's.....E-Bay is the place to get them from, you need 1 Stepper Motor for each Gauge,


E-Bay Stepper Motor's,
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=Chevy&_kw=stepper&_kw=Motor&_kw=Silverado&_kw=Cluster

 
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