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A/C issue - pressure too high

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#1 ·
1993 c1500 - 5.7L - 2nd style a/c system (originally r12, retrofitted)

A few months ago I replaced my compressor, dryer, orifice tube (the expensive auto-adjusting extreme duty one), and condenser. I added oil, vacuumed the system, and then started my charge. The guy at oreilley said the truck calls for 4 cans (12oz each) of R134a. I got through 2.5 cans, and then my low side pressure was 40 and my high side was 275 (95? ambient, (hot)). It was cooling real good, so I decided not to put any more refrigerant in.

Last week my truck was involved in a front end collision, I replaced the whole front end from a 88 chevy which has the 1st style condenser, so I used my old, slighly mangled condenser. The condenser was ok... still had pressure when I took it out, a few tubes were compressed, but not more than 50%.

When I started to charge, right after the first can and before the start of the second can, the pressure was 310psi on the high side and and 50 on the low side (85? ambient, not so hot). I figured the condesnser was not good, so i bought a new one. cam home and took my orifice tube about of the old one and found a bunch of crap that looked like (clean, not dark color) oil impregnated with aluminum powder and shards of aluminum, and shards of something hard and black. I initially thought that this must have broken loose from the innter wall of the condenser, but later suspected that it came from the compressor. The compressor was obviously compressing so i decided not to replace, and just replaced the condenser, blew out the orifice tube with air, it was clean.

Got it all put back together and started charging again, and same story. I have not inspected the orifice tube yet for shards of crap, but this high pressure anomaly started RIGHT as soon as I started charging. Not enough time in my opinion for the compressor to have filled the entire new condenser with crap and clog the orifice tube.

So, where should I look next? I am trying to avoid paying for a new compressor, but if it really needs that, then I guess i gotta do it.
 
#2 ·
Have you put a vaccum on the system yet? that will help, since it sounds like you have an air bubble that is keeping the system from getting pressurized properly. And a lot of the problem and stuff that was in your orifice tube was most likely crap from when the compressor was built along with other components.
 
#3 ·
Have you put a vaccum on the system yet? that will help, since it sounds like you have an air bubble that is keeping the system from getting pressurized properly. And a lot of the problem and stuff that was in your orifice tube was most likely crap from when the compressor was built along with other components.
Yes, I used a vacuum each time for about 20-30 min. I am using the venturi type Robinair 34970 From oreilley to vacuum it. This vacuum uses more air than my air compressor puts out, so I have to keep shutting off the a/c test guage manifold, let the compressor build up air, then open it again. Do you trust this type of vacuum pump? I know it's not the kind that the pros use, but IMO, 30" of vacuum is 30" of vacuum no matter how you achieve it. But I'm not a pro.
 
#4 ·
Then it sounds like there is a blockage or some kind. my buddies suburban did the same thing and we ended up taking on an errand and coming back to finish the job and the pressue had actually dropped and we were able to fill the system back up.
And just for future reference your AC system is 2lbs, or 32 OZ..... So the 2 1/2 cans was right. You need 3lbs for a suburban system and mabey that is what confused him..
 
#6 ·
You're dealing with the toughest problem any A/C system can have. A restriction (non condensables). The best fix is to backwash the system. You can do this by releasing the charge through the high side service valve, (134, not R12). I then charge the system with 150psi to 200psi of nitrogen and release that through the high side. I always pull a vacuum using an electric pump and digital vacuum gauge. If this equipment isn't available, then I can't stress enough the importance of good vacuum. That 30hg on your freon gauge set is not always what it seems. I suggest doing whatever you can to get an electric vacuum pump and let it run overnight.
One more note; a bent, kinked or flattened tube is a restriction.