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Should you open the bleeder valve when pushing the caliper piston?

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#1 ·
I am in my 60s and have been doing brake jobs both pads and shoes since I was a teenager. I was taught how to do this by two uncles who were professional mechanics.

One of the things I was taught is that when replacing brake pads, simply push the caliper pistons back slowly without opening the reservoir. This allows the fluid to move back up the line without over-stressing the seals or risking the introduction of air into the system which could necessitate bleeding the brakes.

I have lost count of how many brake jobs I have done this way and can say I have never had any issues with any of them.

Recently I was came across a YT video on brake pad and rotor replacement produced by what appears to be either a bucks-up automotive repair and/or automotive training facility.

The person doing the video insists that one should open the bleeder valve slightly while pushing back the piston. His reasoning is grime and dirt that accumulates behind the piston could get into the brake line and master cylinder causing issues with the brake system. He went on to say that you must bleed the system after completing the replacement job.

I have watched numerous videos online pertaining to brake pad replacement and this is the only one that I have found that says to open the bleeder valve. Even my Chilton's manual (I just checked) says to slowly push the piston back keeping an eye on the reservoir to prevent overflow. It does not say anything about opening the bleeder valve.

Has anyone else ever heard of this and what is your opinion on the issue?
 
#2 ·
I have heard the same thing, open the bleeders. I recall hearing it was because of the ABS valves.
Like you, I've changed pads and shoes all my life and I've never opened the bleeders.
I lie, I had a caliper this past summer that would not let me push the pistons back, I opened the bleeder to see it that would help and it didn't, I guess the piston was stuck, I just replaced it.
Even the Euro cars (my wife's Saturn is a rebadged Opal) and the park brake uses the caliper pistons, these cars need to have the pistons screwed back in, even with those, I've never opened the bleeders.
 
#3 ·
What I find puzzling is how does he think "grime and dirt" gets into what is essentially a sealed system.

I can see it perhaps happening if you drive around with the brake fluid reservoir uncapped or topped it off with old and/or contaminated fluid.
 
#4 ·
People say all sorts of weird sch......Stuff on the internet.......
 
#5 ·
I agree. However, based on what the guy hosting the video is saying he is an automotive instructor and this is what they teach the trainees.

In light of my own experience and the plethora of similar videos produced by automotive ships, opening the bleeder valve is an unnecessary step and IMO could increase the likelihood of getting air in the system by a novice attempting the procedure.
 
#6 ·
Front disc brakes are easier to do than rears or drums, imo...

and I do have stories of my Dumbness doing brakes...like not being able to remove the rear rotors because the parking brakes set.........
 
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#7 ·
I used to own a '69 Bug which means 4-wheel drum brakes. Between the springs, adjuster and dust, those were a beast to change.

There are a couple of YT channels featuring women who do repairs on commercial trucks (tractors, dump trucks etc) and heavy equipment. You should see them doing the drum brakes on some of those vehicles.