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Strange Code 54 issues....

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#1 ·
So, I have been having an issue with the fuel pump circuit on my 1993 K1500 and I am hoping that you guys may have some ideas that I haven't had yet.

About two months ago I began having an issue where my truck would randomly cut off while I was driving down the road and then not start back. When this would happen the fuel pump was not coming on so I figured it must be bad since I was getting no codes. Swapped it out and the truck seemed to run fine.... for a while. Now it is doing the same thing again but it will not stay running very long at all now (maybe 2-3 minutes if I'm lucky). I then began trying to diagnose what was wrong and found that I was getting power to the fuel pump relay. When the truck runs I am getting power to the 20A fuse and hence through the fuel pump relay. When the truck shuts off, it immediately clicks and there is no power through the relay or fuses. I checked for power at the oil pressure switch and have power there. I figured it must be one of these switches so I replaced both. Still nothing.... same old story. I would check for power at the pump but since I'm not getting it through at the relay I know I don't have it at the pump. I jumped the relay (orange to gray) and got power back through the relay and hence to the pump. The truck still won't start. I checked the 10A fuse on the fuse block under the dash and found that it has proper resistance. I also swapped it out with my brake fuse just for giggles and still have the same old thing.

In all of this, I am not getting a code except when I have the ALDL jumped out to read the codes and try to start it. I then get a code 54 which makes me think that my issue is simply that I am not getting proper power signal to the ECM. My question would be how can I test this? Could it possibly be an ignition issue and if so, how do I test this? I don't particularly want to just keep throwing parts at the issue especially since my wife is becoming a bit pissy about the whole "Just one more part... I hope" conversation.

Any help is appreciated.
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
The relay is not getting power through it when it cuts off. There is power getting to it (orange wire) but not through it. I replaced the relay and still the problem persists.

BTW, I was testing the relay the last time it cut off and there was power going through it. Power remained going through it for a few seconds after the truck cut off. The relay clicked and the power was no longer coming through. During this time I also had power at the fuse.
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
Motor City Rick, thanks for the reply. Had obtained the wiring schematic but I think the bigger problem is understanding what is happening at various points in the circuit at a given time to be able to diagnose it. I certainly appreciate your help. To answer your questions;

Is there zero resistance on the black wire at the relay wiring connector, disconnected? Yes
Is there battery voltage at the orange on the relay? Yes
Within 5 to 7 seconds, do you get battery voltage at the grey wire of the relay when cranking the motor? No - except when it decides to crank and then it is there. When it cuts off, power remains until the relay "clicks" and then there is none.
When you apply battery voltage to the red wire on the relay or single pigtail, do you hear the fuel pump run back in the gas tank? No

Hopefully this will give you some insight into what's going on. In the mean time, I probably should mention that I replaced the fusible link, have checked all of the grounds that I can find (although I am not certain that I have found them all), and as a previously stated I have replaced the fuel pump relay and the oil pressure switch.

Thanks again.
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
Motor City Rick, I'm sorry I haven't got back to you in a few days. This morning I got the chance to conduct some of the tests you were presenting. The first thing I did this morning was look at my battery terminals and found that, although my positive terminal appeared affixed properly, when I put slight pressure on it it began to move. I pulled the terminal bolt out and found that it was slightly cross threaded at the end. I'm guessing that happened at Advance Auto Parts when the poor clerk was putting it in during a thunderstorm about a year ago. Anyway, I changed the bolt out and began to conduct the tests as you outlined. Upon doing so I found that the grey wire running from the in line fuse to the ECM was not seated properly in the ECM harness connector. I changed the motor out from the stock 305 to a 350 back last summer and in that process installed and pulled the ECM a couple of times trying to get the right chip in it. I'm guessing this probably had something to do with the wire not being seated in the connector correctly. In any event, I seated the wire back properly, she cranked right up and has been running ever since. Hopefully this solves any other issues. I'm not exactly sure which issue corrected what I was dealing with but it looks like it is fixed. If not, I'll hit you guys up again but your guidance certainly appears to have put me on the right track. Thanks again for your help and if you are ever in the West Central Georgia area I owe you a beverage of your choice.